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This discussion focuses on designing a piston/cylinder expander for low-temperature experiments using an air compressor capable of 6 cfm at 150 psi. The user aims to achieve significant cooling through an isentropic expander, which can provide approximately 30°C cooling compared to less than 2°C from a Joule-Thomson valve. Key challenges include modifying air compressor valves for reverse operation and ensuring continuous piston engagement. Theoretical calculations suggest that expanding air from 174.7 psi absolute and 80°F to 14.7 psi absolute could potentially reach temperatures near -200°F.

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  • Understanding of isentropic processes in thermodynamics
  • Familiarity with Brayton cycle principles
  • Knowledge of piston/cylinder mechanics and valve operation
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Hey guys,

I'm trying to do some experiments at low temperatures in my garage. I have an air compressor that can push 6 cfm at 150 psi, and I want to expand this gas through an isentropic expander (NOT an isenthalpic expansion valve). Isentropic expansion extracts work from the fluid as it expands which cools the gas much much more than just expanding through a joule-thomson valve. I figure I can get 30 degC cooling in a work-producing expander, vs less than 2 degC in a joule-thomson valve.

The attached image shows the process flow diagram for a simple reverse Brayton cycle. There is a counter current heat exchanger between the compressor and expander. The cold gas leaving the expander cools the gas that is entering the expander, and through this process we can get very cold temperatures at the turbine exit. (this is how some LNG processes work) I am in the process of designing the heat exchanger, which will likely be concentric tubes.

As you can imagine turbo-expanders do not exist commercially at low flowrates. Car/truck turbo-charger turbines require way too much flow for my application.

I want to modify an air compressor or a lawn mower internal combustion engine to become an expander.

Here are the problems I've identified so far...

Air compressor valves seem to all be passive, meaning one opens on the piston downstroke due to the pressure inside dropping, and the exhaust valve opens on the upstroke when the pressure inside rises. This is no good for trying to run this in reverse.

The internal combustion engine has valves connected to camshafts that are tied to the crankshaft, which is a good start. But the otto cycle has a compression stroke (upstroke with both inlet and exit valves closed), which is also no good.

I am assuming I need at least 3 piston/cylinders (120 degrees apart on the crankshaft) so that at all times one piston is receiving the force from the high pressure stream, keeping the crankshaft rotating.

So, I need to build/modify a piston/cylinder setup with camshafts/valves that simply opens one valve on a downstroke, and opens the other on the upstroke.

Any thoughts?
 

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What temperatures are you trying to reach? It appears that expanding air from 174.7 psi absolute and 80 Fahrenheit (300K) to 14.7 psi absolute in a perfectly isentropic process would get you down to nearly -200 fahrenheit. It's a little hard to believe this is possible in a piston expander but I guess the numbers don't lie.

The biggest challenge will be to approximate an isentropoic process in the first place I suppose, possibly doubly hard in a piston assembly that has a lot of thermal mass...
 
Thanks for the reply, you helped me find an error in my spreadsheet! That is around the temperature I'm trying to reach, and I can keep getting colder by reducing the turbine inlet temperature in a counter current heat exchanger.

Are you using this equation:
T2 = T1 * (P2/P1) ^ ((k-1)/k)

It certainly won't be perfectly isentropic expansion, but close enough to get the job done. If I get 100 degC of cooling through the expander I'll be doing very well.
 
CS Bence said:
Thanks for the reply, you helped me find an error in my spreadsheet! That is around the temperature I'm trying to reach, and I can keep getting colder by reducing the turbine inlet temperature in a counter current heat exchanger.

Are you using this equation:
T2 = T1 * (P2/P1) ^ ((k-1)/k)

I didn't use that equation (although its result is pretty good) I actually used a thermodynamic chart I have for air. By finding 174 psi @ 300K, and then following a constant-entropy line to 14.7 psi, I was able to find the temperature reached (in this case around -198 degrees F I think).

In any case, the numbers show that it's THEORETICALLY possible to reach these cryogenic temperatures in a very efficient thermodynamic process, however I'm not sure how efficient your piston will be. In any case, I think you could reach very cold temperatures by simply expanding pressurized air.
 

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