Help me understand kinematics lecture on derivation of laws of motion

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The discussion revolves around understanding the calculus derivation of the kinematic equation Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2ax, specifically focusing on the integration and cancellation of differentials in the context of motion. The subject area is kinematics, with an emphasis on the mathematical reasoning behind the derivation.

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  • Participants explore the integration of both sides of the equation with respect to time and question the conditions under which differentials can be canceled. They discuss the implications of using vanishingly small intervals and the meaning of small delta x in relation to time and distance.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the conditions necessary for the mathematical operations performed in the derivation. There is an exploration of the concept of infinitesimal changes and their significance in the context of calculus.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of limits in calculus, particularly in relation to the behavior of variables as they approach zero. There is a focus on the understanding of instantaneous rates of change versus finite intervals.

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I was checking online videos for lectures on kinematics and I watched one made by yale university but there was some part of it that I didn't understand when he talks about calculus derivation of Vf^2=Vi^2 + 2ax
here is the video

the derivation starts from about 1:08:45
I didn't understand the part of canceling the dts even though he explained it When it can be allowed and when not? and why does it have to be vanishingly small as he says on 1:11:00? and why does he say in 1:12:14 if delta x is small like 1 second what does that mean? is it distance or time?
 
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In essence what you are doing is integrating both sides w.r.t. t. So when he has d/dt(v2/2)=a(dx/dt)

and he 'cancels' the 'dt's it becomes like this:

[tex]\int \frac{d}{dt}(\frac{v^2}{2})dt = \int a \frac{dx}{dt}dt[/tex]

'a' is constant so you get:

[tex]\int \frac{d}{dt}(\frac{v^2}{2})dt = a \int \frac{dx}{dt}dt[/tex]

The limits of integration would just be from final to initial.
which will give him

[tex]\frac{v^2}{2} \right| _{v_i} ^{v_f} = ax \right|_{x_0} ^{x}[/tex]

If you differentiate something and then integrate it back ,you will get the something. Which will give you the result.

That is the 'proper' way to do it. The canceling he did just happens to work since differentials are defined by the limit as it goes to zero.

So a= dv/dt = lim(Δt→0) Δv/Δt
 
ok but why does it only work when delta t is vanishingly small? as he said? and it won't work if it's one second?
 
madah12 said:
ok but why does it only work when delta t is vanishingly small? as he said? and it won't work if it's one second?

Because dv/dt = lim(Δt→0) Δv/Δt this means that you will only get the actual value of dv/dt iff Δt is infinitesimally small (or tending to zero).
 

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