Help on Permuntation and Combination Question

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The problem involves determining the number of ways to divide a group into two taxis of specified sizes, with the condition that two specific individuals must be in the same taxi. The subject area is permutations and combinations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct application of permutations versus combinations in the context of the problem. There is an exploration of how to select additional individuals once the two specified individuals are placed in a taxi.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the selection process, emphasizing the need to consider combinations rather than permutations. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the mathematical concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the specific sizes of the taxis and the requirement for two individuals to be in the same taxi, which influences the selection process. The original poster expresses confusion over the discrepancy between their calculated answer and the expected result.

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[SOLVED] Help on Permuntation and Combination Question

Homework Statement



After a show ,they decided to divide into two groups of size four and five, to go for a supper in 2 taxis. In how many ways could this be done if george and sally were to be in the same taxi

Homework Equations


nCn
nPc


The Attempt at a Solution



No of ways = (3p3 x 2! + 4p4)+(2p2 x 2! + 5p5) = 160

But answer is 56. How do u get the answer it is so small
 
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Taxi A and B have capacities 4,5 resp.

They both (George, Sally) can be either in Taxi A or B. If they're in taxi A, how many more people do you have to select from 7 remaining and in how many ways? And in the second case (taxi B), how many more do you need from 7? Add them up to get your answer.

You need to find the number of ways of selecting 2 and 3 people from 7. Can you see why? Also, the order in which you select the 2 or 3 doesn't matter. Also, the remaining people would occupy the second taxi. So you only need to consider the taxi in which Sally, George are sitting.

The answer indeed is 56.

Regards,
Sleek.
 
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OK Thanks so it was C instead of P. Question solved
 
fluffy91 said:
OK Thanks so it was C instead of P. Question solved

That doesn't sound like you really understand the situation, rather that you learn to insert things into equations :( To distinguish between a Permutation and a Combination, consider if order matters. For the taxis, it doesn't because if ABC get into 1 taxi, its the same as BAC etc etc.
 

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