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The discussion revolves around the costs of uranium-234 and plutonium-239, as well as historical information related to the atomic bombs 'Little Boy' and 'Fat Man'. Participants are exploring the complexities of pricing these materials and the implications of their use.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the costs associated with uranium and plutonium, questioning the availability and legality of these materials. There are discussions about the processes involved in uranium enrichment and the toxicity of plutonium.

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Some participants have provided insights into the pricing of uranium and the challenges in obtaining plutonium. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these materials, with no clear consensus on the specifics of their costs or availability.

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Participants are navigating the sensitive nature of the topic, particularly regarding the design of nuclear weapons for educational purposes, which raises ethical and legal considerations.

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im so desperate. i can not find anything on the costs of uranium 234 and plutonium 239 per kilogram. please help me.

also if anyone has any information on the detonation/trigger/aftermath on the bombs 'little boy' of hiroshima and 'fat man' of nagasaki.

any help is MUCHLEY APPRECIATED.
 
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I'm pretty sure they don't sell these kind of materials very openly O.o. And Did you mean U-235?.
 
brandy said:
im so desperate. i can not find anything on the costs of uranium 234 and plutonium 239 per kilogram. please help me.
Uranium is sold as U3O8. The world price for U3O8 is currently about $60 US per pound or $132 per kg. This is natural uranium which has about .7% U235 and 99.3% U238.

Candu reactors use natural U (processed into UO2. Most other reactors use lightly enriched U. Enrichment is expensive. The price of enriched U depends on the level of enrichment. To make 1 kg of U enriched to 5% U235 you need 7 kg of natural U. Then you have to factor in the cost of enrichment which I think is about 2 SWU per percent of enrichment at about $100 per SWU. To enrich to 5% you would have to spend another $1000 per kg on top of the cost of the U, so now you are up to about $2000 per kg. before manufacturing costs. I am guessing it is at least $3000 per kg including manufacturing, but that is just a guess.

No one sells Pu. It does not occur naturally in any signficant quantities because it has a relatively short (in geological time) half life of 24,000 years. It is produced in reactors. But it is difficult to separate out the Pu239 from the U, fission products and heavier elements. It can be done but it is not permitted by law in the U.S.

AM
 
.. and with good reason!
Pu is unbelievably toxic. Radioactive enough to force users to keep their well shielded distance; and contamination by even a tiny amount (micrograms) will do damage and cause cancers.
 
GTrax said:
Pu is unbelievably toxic.
The toxicity of Pu is exagerated, don't breath in dust of it but compared to something really nasty like uncooked fish or a rusty nail it's child's play.

Radioactive enough to force users to keep their well shielded distance; and contamination by even a tiny amount (micrograms) will do damage and cause cancers.
It's only an alpha emitter so well-shielded would require a sheet of newspaper.
A few micrograms in the correct form in the lungs gives a few % increase in cancer risk.

It's not widely sold because it's only real application is in building nuclear weapons, personal use of nuclear weapons doesn't seem to be covered by the 2nd ammendment.
 
im not making a bomb. i have to DESIGN one and find out details about cost and things for school.
 
The best resource is probably http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/

It is difficult to set a price for Pu since it is not exactly a traded commodity
You could take the total budget of the dept of energy over the last 50years and divide by the total stockpile!
 
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Andrew Mason said:
To enrich to 5% you would have to spend another $1000 per kg on top of the cost of the U, so now you are up to about $2000 per kg. before manufacturing costs.
This is not quite correct. Since depleted U is still about .2% U235, 7 kg of raw U would yield 1 kg. of 3.5% U235. Enriching 1 Kg of U235 to 5% requires 10 kg of raw U.

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