Help with balance of matter with chemical reaction

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of mass and conversion in a chemical reaction involving the mineral FeS2 and its calcination process. Participants are addressing specific calculations related to the mass of solids leaving the calciner, the percentage conversion of FeS2, and the analysis of gases produced. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations of the chemical process.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether to balance the reaction by element or by compound.
  • Another participant describes their approach, starting with a basis of 100 g of FeS2 to calculate theoretical moles of oxygen and excess oxygen.
  • A participant confirms the moles of O2 and N2 calculated by another, but presents a different total mass of air, leading to further calculations.
  • There is a discussion about the grams of solids leaving the calciner, with one participant stating they calculated it as 76.92 g, while another participant seeks clarification on this calculation.
  • One participant asserts that the number of moles of Fe atoms leaving the container in the solids equals the number of moles of FeS2 entering, indicating no Fe is present in the gas phase.
  • Another participant proposes a relationship between the mass of FeS2 and Fe2O3 exiting the container based on the total mass of solids and inerts.
  • Several participants express confusion or seek clarification on specific calculations and assumptions made in the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on some calculations, such as the moles of O2 and N2, but there are discrepancies in the total mass of air and the mass of solids leaving the calciner. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on certain calculations.

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Some calculations depend on assumptions about the initial mass and the definitions of components in the reaction. There are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the conversion and mass balance that participants are attempting to clarify.

Dionisio Mendoza
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The question arises in which procedure to follow, a balance by element or by compound?
The excersise is this:
A mineral of a process contains contains 90% FeS2 and 10% inerts by weight. This materialit is calcined with 25% excess air, according to the reaction:

FeS2 + 02 ► Fe203 + S02

The solid mixture leaves the calciner with 13% inerts by weight and the rest FeS2 and Fe203

a) Calculate the weight of solids leaving the calciner.

b) Determine the% conversion based on FeS2 •

c) Calculate the Orsat analysis of the gases produced.

So far i only be able to averigue the O2 and N2 wheights.
 

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Your handwritten solution is unreadable. Please describe what you did, including your reasoning for each step. The only thing I got out of your writeup is that you started by choosing a basis of 100 g for the FeS2. This was a good start.
 
What I did first was to make the flow diagram, then calculate the theoretical moles of oxygen with the calculation base of 100g 90% FeS2 in the feed, obtaining
theoretical oxygen = 90g * 11/4 = 2.06
Then calculate the excess oxygen = theoretical oxygen * excess airflow = 2.06 * .25 = .515moles
After the total oxygen = 2.06 + .515 = 2.575moles
with a rule of three I got that the N2 would be 9.68 mole.
Multiply each one of those values by their molecular weight and the result that I obtained added them and got 581.02 grams, which would be total weight of air
 
I confirm your moles of O2 and N2. But I get the total number of grams of air as 355.4 gm.

How did you calculate the number of grams of solids leaving the container? I get 76.92 gm. What are the number of moles of Fe atom leaving the container in the solids?
 
[QUOTE = "Chestermiller, post: 6134226, miembro: 345636"] Confirmo sus moles de O2 y N2. Pero obtengo el número total de gramos de aire como 355.4 gm.

¿Cómo calculaste la cantidad de gramos de sólidos que salen del contenedor? Tengo 76,92 gm. ¿Cuál es el número de moles de átomo de Fe que sale del contenedor en los sólidos? [/ QUOTE]

Multiplica el número de moles de oxígeno por su peso molecular, como el N2.
2.575 mm * 32 g / mol = 309.98 g
9.68 mm * 28 g / mol = 271.04 g
Y sumando ambos obtuve el aire total.El número de lunares que salen de Fe no lo sé.
 
Dionisio Mendoza said:
[QUOTE = "Chestermiller, post: 6134226, miembro: 345636"] Confirmo sus moles de O2 y N2. Pero obtengo el número total de gramos de aire como 355.4 gm.

¿Cómo calculaste la cantidad de gramos de sólidos que salen del contenedor? Tengo 76,92 gm. ¿Cuál es el número de moles de átomo de Fe que sale del contenedor en los sólidos? [/ QUOTE]

Multiplica el número de moles de oxígeno por su peso molecular, como el N2.
2.575 mm * 32 g / mol = 309.98 g

2.575 X 32 = 82.4
 
The number of moles of Fe atoms leaving the container in the solids is the same the number of moles of FeS2 entering. (There is no Fe in the gas).
 
[QUOTE = "Chestermiller, post: 6134230, miembro: 345636"] 2.575 X 32 = 82.4 [/ QUOTE]
O god I am wrong its 353.44g of total air
 
and the moles of the entry if they are .75?
 
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Dionisio Mendoza said:
and the moles of the entry if they are .75?
Correct. So the total mass of solid leaving is 76.92 gm, and, since the mass of inserts is 10 gm, the total mass of FeS2 plus Fe2O3 leaving the container is 66.92. Let x = mass of FeS2 exiting and let (66.92-x) = mass of Fe2O3 exiting. In terms of x, what is the number of moles of FeS2 exiting, and what is the number of moles of Fe2O3 exiting? Based on this, in terms of x, what is the number of moles of Fe atoms exiting?
 
  • #11
but how you obtain the 76,92 g
 
  • #12
Dionisio Mendoza said:
but how you obtain the 76,92 g
$$0.13 y = 10$$
 
  • #13
Chestermiller said:
$$0.13 y = 10$$
Oh rigth. but in the other I do not follow you
 
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If the total solids in the exit is 76.92 gm, and the mass of inerts in the exit stream is 10 gm, what is the combined mass of FeS2 and Fe2O3 in the exit stream?
 

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