Material balance with a reaction (chemical engineering)

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The discussion revolves around a chemical engineering homework problem involving the material balance of a combustion reaction between propane and butane with pure oxygen. Participants explore the calculation of the mole percent of propane in the fuel based on the combustion products and their composition.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant sets up two balanced equations for the combustion of propane and butane, assuming 100% conversion of reactants.
  • Another participant points out a potential typographical error regarding the formula for butane, suggesting it should be C4H10 instead of C4H8.
  • A suggestion is made to include leftover O2 in the product calculations and to create a variable for it to aid in solving the equations.
  • One participant expresses confusion over obtaining a final answer for propane that exceeds 100, indicating a possible error in their calculations.
  • Another participant encourages showing work to identify the source of the error and offers assistance in resolving the issue.
  • A participant acknowledges a mistake in how they accounted for the moles of O2 consumed, which contributed to their confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the solution, as there are indications of confusion and errors in calculations. Multiple viewpoints and approaches to the problem are presented, but no final agreement is established.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the conversion of reactants and the accounting of excess oxygen that may affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement



Felder & Rousseau 4.73 (p. 184)

A mixture of propane and butane is burned with pure oxygen. The combustion products contain 47.4 mole % H2O. After all of the water is removed from the products, the residual gas contains 69.4 mole% CO2 and the balance is O2. What is the mole percent of propane in the fuel?

Homework Equations



1. Let propane = P
2. Choose 100 mol of the reactant fuel as a basis

The Attempt at a Solution


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Set up 2 balanced equations: 1. C3H8 + 5O2 -> 4H2O + 3CO2
2. C4H8 + 13/2O2 -> 5H2O + 4CO2

I assumed a 100% conversion of the reactant gases. I know O2 is in excess. I drew up a reactant table in terms of mol and set Propane in = P and Butane in= 100-P. I then tried to calculate P by setting the mols of water out divided by the total mols out equal to 0.474.
 
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So, what's the problem?
 
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MickeyBlue said:

Homework Statement



Felder & Rousseau 4.73 (p. 184)

A mixture of propane and butane is burned with pure oxygen. The combustion products contain 47.4 mole % H2O. After all of the water is removed from the products, the residual gas contains 69.4 mole% CO2 and the balance is O2. What is the mole percent of propane in the fuel?

Homework Equations



1. Let propane = P
2. Choose 100 mol of the reactant fuel as a basis

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Set up 2 balanced equations: 1. C3H8 + 5O2 -> 4H2O + 3CO2
2. C4H8 + 13/2O2 -> 5H2O + 4CO2

I assumed a 100% conversion of the reactant gases. I know O2 is in excess. I drew up a reactant table in terms of mol and set Propane in = P and Butane in= 100-P. I then tried to calculate P by setting the mols of water out divided by the total mols out equal to 0.474.
So far so good, with one exception:

You wrote that the butane was \mathrm{C_4 H_8}, but I think you meant \mathrm{C_4 H_{10}}. Your equations were balanced correctly though, so I assume that was just a minor mistake typing things into the computer.

As a hint for moving forward, don't forget to include the leftover \mathrm{O_2} in your product. Similar to what you did with P, make up a variable name to indicate the amount of \mathrm{O_2} in there. I used the variable x, but you can use whatever you want.

So your formula, as you have already stated it, should be of this form:

\frac {\mathrm{moles \ of \ H_2O}}{(\mathrm{moles \ of \ H_2O}) + (\mathrm{moles \ of \ CO_2}) + (\mathrm{moles \ of \ O_2})} = 0.474

After that, take out the \mathrm{H_2O} and do something quite similar except with \mathrm{CO_2} in the numerator (and the ratio value being different).

If you do things right, you'll have two equations and two unknowns (P and x). :wink: That's enough to solve for P.
 
Chestermiller said:
So, what's the problem?
My final answer for propane was well above 100 and I couldn't understand why.
 
MickeyBlue said:
My final answer for propane was well above 100 and I couldn't understand why.
Show your work, and perhaps we may be able to point you in the right direction.
 
Oh! Thank you, I see where I went wrong now. Because of how I added mols of O2 consumed I took it as the amount in excess instead. You're right; this should be enough to get P.
 
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