Help with bounds for integration

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around changing the bounds for the double integral of Sin(x^2) with specified limits for x and y. Participants are exploring the correct setup for the region of integration and how to express the bounds appropriately.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to convert the bounds and graph the region of integration. There are questions about the clarity of the problem statement and whether the region of integration is accurately described. Some participants are also discussing the implications of changing the order of integration.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the bounds and the region of integration, with some participants providing insights about the relationships between the variables. A few have noted discrepancies in their results compared to expected answers, prompting further inquiry into their calculations and setups.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the use of technology for verification, and there are indications of confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the bounds and the triangular region involved in the integration.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to change the bounds for this integral
Sin(x^2)dxdy

With x going from 1 to 2y, y going from 0 to 1
(I already know the integration for sin(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 2y=x to 1/2x=y and graphed all the bounds.

2H53WHoyRtm4W0h7LfqX3Q.png

haj14p

I went with 1,2 for my xbounds, and the 1/2x = y to to 1, I'm getting answer close to the correct answer, but no dice.
 

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Quatros said:

Homework Statement



I'm trying to change the bounds for this integral
Sin(x^2)dxdy

With x going from 1 to 2y, y going from 0 to 1
(I already know the integration for sin(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 2y=x to 1/2x=y and graphed all the bounds.

View attachment 215034
haj14p

I went with 1,2 for my xbounds, and the 1/2x = y to to 1, I'm getting answer close to the correct answer, but no dice.

Show your actual computations, and tell us your answer.
 
(forgot to add a +3 in sign) With wolfram (we were allowed to use tech for this one) I'm getting -.0116111 ( which is the correct answer in the book).
But with my parameters, -.0200198 with those parameters. y=.5x to 1, and x = 1 to 2. )
 
I really need help on this.
 
Quatros said:

Homework Statement



I'm trying to change the bounds for this integral
Sin(x^2)dxdy

With x going from 1 to 2y, y going from 0 to 1
(I already know the integration for sin(x^2)
Your problem statement isn't very clear. Is the region of integration the triangle bounded by the x-axis, the line x = 1, and the line y = (1/2)x?
And are you supposed to change the order of integration?

Based on what you wrote above, the region would be described as ##\{(x, y) | 2y \le x \le 1, 0 \le y \le 1\}##. Note that in the triangle, for a given y value, the x value on the sloping line is less than the x-value on the vertical line.
Quatros said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 2y=x to 1/2x=y and graphed all the bounds.

View attachment 215034
haj14p

I went with 1,2 for my xbounds, and the 1/2x = y to to 1, I'm getting answer close to the correct answer, but no dice.
It's not as simple as just switching letters. Think about the range of x values in the triangle.
 
Quatros said:
(forgot to add a +3 in sign) With wolfram (we were allowed to use tech for this one) I'm getting -.0116111 ( which is the correct answer in the book).
But with my parameters, -.0200198 with those parameters. y=.5x to 1, and x = 1 to 2. )

This is not a helpful answer to my suggestion that you show your work. Write down the actual formulas you used.
 

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