Help with compressed air thrust

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The discussion centers on calculating the psi required to lift approximately 200 pounds to a height of 300 feet using compressed air. Key calculations indicate that a cylinder with a diameter of 6 inches and a length of 1.5 feet would require an air pressure of around 160 atmospheres to achieve the necessary thrust. The conversation highlights the limitations of compressed air as a propulsion method, noting issues such as cooling during expansion and insufficient energy density for lifting heavy weights. Alternative propulsion methods, including electric motors and hydrogen peroxide, are suggested as more viable options for achieving the desired lift.

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BrightRaven210 said:
Exactly what I had in mind, but I couldn't find a high enough torque motor that won't be too big. And thanks, but I just need the math is all. Also my line will be steel cord.
Try checking out the "Superheroes" episode of Mythbusters (or maybe the Star Wars one, I forget) if you can find it on U-Tube or the Discovery Channel site. Jamie managed to build a wrist-mounted winch for his grappler that pulled him up fairly smartly, and that dude has got to be well over 200 lbs.
 

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