Help with one small demonstration

In summary, the student was having trouble proving that I_0 = I_1 = \frac{\pi}{2} and was looking for a relation between xT_n(x) and \frac{1}{2}(T_{n+1}(x) + T_{n-1}(x)).
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Now in LaTeX hope it's ok (the preview sucks):

1. Homework Statement

given the integral

[tex]I_n(r,z)= \int_z^r \frac{T_n(\frac{p}{z})T_n(\frac{p}{r})}{p \sqrt{r^2-p^2} \sqrt{p^2-z^2}} dp[/tex]

where [tex]T_n(x)[/tex] is the chebyshev polynomial of the first kind:
[tex]T_n(x) = 2 x T_{n-1}(x) - T_{n-2}(x)[/tex]
[tex]T_0(x)=1[/tex]
[tex]T_1(x)=x[/tex]

Important detail -> [tex]0 < z < r < 1[/tex]

prove that:
[tex]I_{n+1} = I_{n-1}[/tex]
and
[tex]I_0 = I_1 = \frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]3. The Attempt at a Solution

[tex]I_0 = I_1 = \frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] is relatively simple. I just changed variables [tex]y= p^2[/tex] and let Mathematica do the rest.

The other proof if giving me a hard time.

Substituting the [tex]T_n(x) = 2 x T_{n-1}(x)- T_{n-2}(x)[/tex], I got:

[tex]I_{n+1}(r,z) = \int_z^r \frac{4p T_n(\frac{p}{z}) T_n(\frac{p}{r})} {\sqrt{r^2-p^2} \sqrt{p^2-z^2}} dp - [/tex]

[tex]- \int_z^r \frac{2r T_n(\frac{p}{z})T_{n-1}(\frac{p}{r})}{\sqrt{r^2-p^2} \sqrt{p^2-z^2}} dp -[/tex]

[tex]- \int_z^r\frac{2z T_{n-1}(\frac{p}{z}) T_n(\frac{p}{r})}{\sqrt{r^2-p^2} \sqrt{p^2-z^2}} dp + I_{n-1}(r,z)[/tex]

Now, the remainder integrals should be zero, but I can't figure out how to get there.
If it helps, I've found this relation:
[tex]xT_n(x) = \frac{1}{2}(T_{n+1}(x) + T_{n-1}(x))[/tex]

Any help will be very welcome!
 
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This is extremely hard to read. Could you write in Latex?
 
  • #3
Defennnder said:
This is extremely hard to read. Could you write in Latex?
I could, but I need to know how to add latex code here.
 
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There is a [tex]\sum[/tex] symbol in the tool bar above the reply box. Click on this and a latex reference should appear :)
 
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I just noticed that [tex]T_n(x) = 2 x T_{n-1}(x) - T_{n-2}(x)[/tex] is just the same as
[tex]xT_n(x) = \frac{1}{2}(T_{n+1}(x) + T_{n-1}(x))[/tex]

:(
 
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Pomico said:
There is a [tex]\sum[/tex] symbol in the tool bar above the reply box. Click on this and a latex reference should appear :)

thanks man!
 
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no ideas? :(
 

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