Help with Projectile motion- equation problem

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The discussion centers on solving a projectile motion problem where a projectile is launched horizontally from a height h. Participants clarify the need to derive the vertical trajectory equation and address confusion about the variables used in the equations. They emphasize the importance of understanding the relationship between horizontal and vertical displacements and the initial conditions of the projectile. The conversation highlights the significance of correctly interpreting the trajectory as a function of vertical position relative to horizontal distance. Ultimately, the goal is to derive the correct expression for the vertical motion of the projectile.
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Homework Statement


A projectile is launched horizontally with an initial velocity v0 from a height h. If it is assumed that there is no air resistance, which of the following expressions represents the vertical trajectory of the projectile? (A) h–gv0^2/2x^2 (B) h–gv0^2x^2 (C) h-gx^2/2v0^2 (D) h-gx^2/v0^2

Homework Equations


d=vi*t+1/2a*t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


t=d/v; a=g; d=vi*t+1/2g*(x/v)^2-->d=vi*t+(gx^2/2v^2)--->why is this subtracted from h? Also where does d=vi*t go?[/B]
 
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nsola101 said:

Homework Statement


A projectile is launched horizontally with an initial velocity v0 from a height h. If it is assumed that there is no air resistance, which of the following expressions represents the vertical trajectory of the projectile? (A) h–gv0^2/2x^2 (B) h–gv0^2x^2 (C) h-gx^2/2v0^2 (D) h-gx^2/v0^2

Homework Equations


d=vi*t+1/2a*t^2

The Attempt at a Solution


t=d/v; a=g; d=vi*t+1/2g*(x/v)^2-->d=vi*t+(gx^2/2v^2)--->why is this subtracted from h? Also where does d=vi*t go?[/B]

Your equation writing skills are a bit funky, so I might be off base here, for the one question "why is this subtracted from h" draw a picture using vanilla Cartesian coordinates. What direction is the acceleration pointing in? Explain what you're thinking/why you're doing what you're doing as well.
 
nsola101 said:
t=d/v; a=g; d=vi*t+1/2g*(x/v)^2-->d=vi*t+(gx^2/2v^2)

You are on the right lines but you should take more care writing equations. You appear to be using d for both the horizontal displacement (in the equation t=d/v) and the vertical displacement (eg in the equation d=vi*t+1/2g*(x/v)2)

--->why is this subtracted from h?

The object starts from the position (0, h). If you put x=0 into your equation does it give the answer y=h ?

Also where does d=vi*t go?

Vi is the initial vertical velocity. What is the initial vertical velocity if the object is "launched horizontally"?
 
is x the horizontal range of your projectile?
UchihaClan13
 
UchihaClan13 said:
is x the horizontal range of your projectile?
UchihaClan13
It would be the horizontal coordinate at an arbitrary point in the trajectory.
 
haruspex said:
It would be the horizontal coordinate at an arbitrary point in the trajectory.
Okay so all we need is an equation of trajectory for the projectile or rather the vertical motion of the projectile
Right?
UchihaClan13
 
UchihaClan13 said:
Okay so all we need is an equation of trajectory for the projectile or rather the vertical motion of the projectile
Right?
UchihaClan13
The trajectory is what it asks for. I don't know why it specifies vertical.
Vertical motion could just mean y as a function of t.
 
Yes nor do i
A projectile has a general trajectory which has both y and x coordinates in it,at a certain instant of time "t"

UchihaClan13
 
UchihaClan13 said:
Yes nor do i
A projectile has a general trajectory which has both y and x coordinates in it,at a certain instant of time "t"

UchihaClan13
The term trajectory refers to the shape of the path, without consideration of time.
 
  • #10
Perhaps they mention vertical trajectory so you write an equation for y(x) rather x(y) ? Although it's a bit obvious they mean y(x) as they give the answer equation in the problem statement.
 
  • #11
i figured the whole thing out
It's easy
 
  • #12
did you get an equation connecting y,x,g and v0?
 
  • #13
It's easy to see that if x=0 y=h(for the equation of trajectory)
here I consider the point from which the particle is projected as my origin and work accordingly
Now as there's a term for H-something in the options,one can clearly see that the height or the y-coordinate is assumed from the ground to the corresponding x-coordinate
Now all you need is to subtract your equation of trajectory from the initial y-coordinate(which is?/) and voila
You have your answer!
:)

UchihaClan13
 
  • #14
Forum rules discourage just giving the answer. That's why we ask leading questions of the OP.
 
  • #15
I didn't give the OP the answer
I just gave him a hint
 

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