Help with thermal/kinetic friction energy?

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The problem involves a child sliding down a playground slide, with a focus on the energy transferred to thermal energy due to kinetic friction. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically relating to energy conservation and frictional forces.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between energy lost to friction and thermal energy, with one participant attempting to apply the equation for thermal energy but questioning the correctness of their approach. There is also a mention of using mechanical energy concepts.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the application of equations related to thermal energy and friction. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct method to calculate thermal energy, with one participant noting a potential mistake in their calculations regarding the normal force.

Contextual Notes

One participant indicates missing information from a class that could clarify concepts of thermal and frictional energy, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also a mention of an online homework system providing feedback on answers submitted.

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Homework Statement


A child whose weight is 269 N slides down a 6.80 m playground slide that makes an angle of 41.0° with the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction between slide and child is 0.190. (a) How much energy is transferred to thermal energy? (b) If she starts at the top with a speed of 0.314 m/s, what is her speed at the bottom?


Homework Equations


ke=1/2 mv2
thermal energy = fkd = fnUkd


The Attempt at a Solution



for b I used 1/2mvi2 + mgh - fkd = fnUkd = 1/2mvf2
and got it correct...
I missed the class where the teacher explained thermal energy and frictional energy so I assumed that the energy lost to friction is turned into thermal energy and i used
thermal energy = fkd = fnUkd
plugged everything in and got 228 J...
but maybe i have the relationship wrong?
 
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hi dorkymichelle! :smile:

(have a mu: µ :wink:)
dorkymichelle said:
I missed the class where the teacher explained thermal energy and frictional energy so I assumed that the energy lost to friction is turned into thermal energy …

yes, that's correct …

kinetic energy and potential energy are called "mechanical energy", and any "missing" energy (in questions like this) is thermal energy :smile:
 
so for a, I should just use equation thermal energy = fnUkd
and I got 228 J but when I put in the answer,(my homework is online) its wrong...
am i reading the question in correctly somehow?
but I got b right.
 
hi dorkymichelle! :smile:
dorkymichelle said:
so for a, I should just use equation thermal energy = fnUkd
and I got 228 J but when I put in the answer,(my homework is online) its wrong...

i make it the same as you, 228 J (= 269*6.8*sin41°*0.19) :confused:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi dorkymichelle! :smile:


i make it the same as you, 228 J (= 269*6.8*sin41°*0.19) :confused:

oops, found the mistake, in finding normal force, its mgCOS41 not Sin. =d silly mistake!
 

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