Help with this Retraction Mechanism for a Trap

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The discussion revolves around designing a mechanical trap that can automatically reset itself after being triggered. Participants explore various mechanisms, including the use of motors, switches, and cams, to achieve this functionality, specifically in the context of a mouse trap.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a design involving a hinge and lever mechanism, with a magnet holding the lever in place and a motor to pull a wire attached to the lever.
  • Another participant suggests using two switches and a cam to control the motor's rotation, explaining that the cam could push a switch out to keep the motor running for one full rotation.
  • There is a clarification that the trap is intended for mice, referencing a specific video for inspiration, and a question about the necessity of a spring-loaded switch to follow the cam.
  • Participants discuss the concept of a "useless box" as a potential model for the two-switch system that completes a cycle when a switch is pressed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a mechanical solution involving switches and cams, but there is no consensus on the specific design details or the best approach to implement the automatic reset mechanism.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the exact triggering mechanism and the design of the cam and switch system, as well as the implications of using a motor versus purely mechanical components.

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i want make a trap that can reset automaticly.
above my simple drawing how its work, a hinge with lever, the end of lever hold by magnet. every time it swing down, wire attached on the end lever will pulled by motor with half arm.
my question is, how to make switch that trigger motor to turn one rotation? so the trap can reset automaticly.
or any idea to make retract mechanism with mechanical only?
sorry for my English, not my native language
 
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Firstly, what are you trying to trap? Animal traps must be humane or they are both widely illegal and not nice pieces of kit.

To make a motor turn a single turn can be done by using 2 switches to initiate the motor to turn on, and a cam.

if either switch is on, then the motor will rotate.

When the trap is triggered (I'm not sure what your trap is supposed to be trapping, if I'm honest, or what it even does) then this will trigger the first switch, and the motor starts to turn.
The cam would be a round wheel with a dent/recess in the edge. When the motor starts turning, the cam pushes a switch out. This switch remains out for one rotation, and then when the recess comes around again, the switch turns off.
If you design it so that, at this point, the trap is reset and the first switch is off, then the motor will stop.

Look into "the useless box" for a 2 switch system which completes one cycle when a switch is pressed.
 
some bloke said:
Firstly, what are you trying to trap? Animal traps must be humane or they are both widely illegal and not nice pieces of kit.

To make a motor turn a single turn can be done by using 2 switches to initiate the motor to turn on, and a cam.

if either switch is on, then the motor will rotate.

When the trap is triggered (I'm not sure what your trap is supposed to be trapping, if I'm honest, or what it even does) then this will trigger the first switch, and the motor starts to turn.
The cam would be a round wheel with a dent/recess in the edge. When the motor starts turning, the cam pushes a switch out. This switch remains out for one rotation, and then when the recess comes around again, the switch turns off.
If you design it so that, at this point, the trap is reset and the first switch is off, then the motor will stop.

Look into "the useless box" for a 2 switch system which completes one cycle when a switch is pressed.
its for mouse trap, just like on shawn woods video (3d print mouse dunk) but with mechanical only.
cam wheel with dent, so its need spring loaded switch?
useless box make sense, will study it now
 
rama3njoy said:
its for mouse trap, just like on shawn woods video (3d print mouse dunk) but with mechanical only.
cam wheel with dent, so its need spring loaded switch?
useless box make sense, will study it now

yes, you would need a sprung switch to follow the cam.
 

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