Help with Understanding Ground Loops

In summary: Some exampleIn summary, when connecting circuits with different reference electric potentials, it is important to have the same potential at all points in order to prevent an extraneous current from flowing. This can cause issues with DC corrosion and in AC large networks due to induced EMF and self-inductance. In a ground plane design, a ground loop can affect the signal to and from devices, causing potential issues.
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Understanding the issue with ground loops
Hello,

When connecting different circuits together, the reference electric potential ##V_{ref}## (the ##0 Volt##) for each circuit should be the same electric potential so the potential at all other points is the same.

If circuit 1 has reference ##V_{ref1}## and circuit 2 has ##V_{ref2}## with ##V_{ref1}\neq V_{ref2}##, when the two reference potentials are connected, a current will flow along that connection...What is the problem with that? Does a return current always flow anyway along the ground/reference conductor?

thanks for any clarifications
 
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Maybe this figure helps:

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The two Earth connection points are there solely for protection. However, if their electric potential is different, then it is like adding an extra circuit with an extraneous current in parallel to the main circuit (lower portion of the figure)...

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DC source current is simply divided between wire and ground in proportion Rground/Rwire. In a well designed DC network this isn't an issue since allowed voltage drop is small and Rground>>Rwire. If local ground currents are sufficiently strong that may cause unwanted DC corrosion effects.
Situation is more complicated in AC large networks due to induced EMF in the loop and self-inductance of the "return wire". Good example is an AC monophase railway network where rails must be solidly grounded as often as possible and special attention is paid to such issues.
 
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Let's say you have a ground plane in a high speed, low voltage digital design. For example, just a CPU and a RAM.
Let's say you have a ground loop across that plane (by any reason).
What will that current do with the signal to/from the RAM? What will the devices 'see'?
 
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1. What is a ground loop?

A ground loop is a phenomenon that occurs when there are multiple paths for electrical current to flow between two or more points in a circuit. This can lead to interference and distortions in the electrical signal, which can cause problems in electronic systems.

2. How do ground loops affect electronic systems?

Ground loops can cause unwanted noise, hum, or distortion in electronic systems. This can result in poor audio or video quality, data transmission errors, and even damage to sensitive components.

3. How can ground loops be identified?

Ground loops can be identified by observing symptoms such as unwanted noise or distortion in electronic systems. They can also be detected using specialized equipment, such as a ground loop isolator or a multimeter.

4. How can ground loops be prevented?

Ground loops can be prevented by ensuring that all components in a circuit are properly grounded and by using ground loop isolators or other specialized equipment. It is also important to avoid running multiple ground wires between components.

5. What are some common solutions for eliminating ground loops?

Some common solutions for eliminating ground loops include using ground loop isolators, using balanced audio or video cables, and implementing a star grounding system. In some cases, simply rearranging the components in a circuit can also help to eliminate ground loops.

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