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This discussion focuses on understanding units in General Relativity, particularly in the context of the Schwarzschild geometry and black holes as presented in Schutz's "A First Course of General Relativity." The author expresses confusion regarding the conversion of mass units to length units when using the natural units system where \(c = G = 1\). The solution involves applying the formula \(M = \frac{G M_{\text{conv}}}{c^2}\) to recover original length units, emphasizing the importance of dimensional analysis in matching units of mass and length.

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Hi people :)

I'm learning some of General Relativity topics but still I am a beginer, uh! i use the Schutz "A first course of general relativity", but i a little confused about the units, the author say it use c = G = 1 all around the book.
Just right now i reading chapter 11: Schwarchild Geometry and Black Holes". especifically "Conserved quantities" unit, and there, there is a couple of graphs V(r) vs r and in both graphs the root is "r = 2M" where M is the mass of the Schwarchild Black Hole, so my question is how i recover the original lenghts units? i mean if M =1000M(Sun) then i can't say the distance r is 2000M(Sun).

Thanks in advance

(Sorry if a silly question :frown: )
 
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how i recover the original lenghts units?

The mass ##M## in length units can be found by taking the mass ##M_{\text{conv}}## in conventional units and applying the formula:

$$
M = \frac{G M_{\text{conv}}}{c^2}
$$

where ##G## is Newton's gravitational constant and ##c## is the speed of light. Basically, the mass ##M## in "length units" is the mass in a system of units in which ##G = c = 1##; in this system mass and length have the same units.
 
More generally, dimensional analysis. You want a length (dimension ##L##), you've got a mass (dimension ##M##), and you only have G (dimension ##M^{-1}L^3T^{-2}##) and c (dimension ##LT^{-1}##) to play with. You need to multiply by ##G^ac^b## (##a## and ##b## are powers, not tensor indices) such that the dimensions match.

In this case, you have ##r=G^ac^bM##, the dimensions of which are ##L=M^{-a}L^{3a}T^{-2a}L^bT^{-b}M##. Comparing powers of M, L, T gives you

M: ##0=-a+1##
L: ##1=3a+b##
T: ##0=-2a-b##

any pair of which solves to give you Peter's answer.

Informally, stick the SI units into what you have and multiply/divide by powers of G and c until they match.
 
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