Hermite Polynomials: What Are the Initial Values?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the initial values of Hermite polynomials, particularly in the context of their recursive definitions as presented in a quantum mechanics textbook. Participants explore the implications of these definitions and the notation used, addressing both the standard values of coefficients and the challenges in generating polynomial coefficients from the recursion relation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the standard initial values C0 and C1 for Hermite polynomials, noting a potential convention of 2n.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial values may depend on the context of the text, referencing a Wikipedia article for further exploration.
  • A participant mentions a specific recursion relation from Shankar's quantum mechanics book and expresses confusion about generating coefficients due to a chosen constraint on ε.
  • Another participant proposes that there must be a specific n=N such that ε leads to a termination of the series, allowing for nonzero coefficients determined by the recursion relation.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the determination of ε, clarifying that it is consistent across terms in the sum, which contributed to the initial confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the standard initial values and the implications of the recursion relation, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential confusion arising from notation and the dependence of the recursion relation on specific choices of ε, which may not be clearly defined in the text.

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I'm currently reading a text which uses Hermite polynomials defined in the recursive manner. The form of the polynomials are such that C0 C1 are the 0th and 1st terms of a taylor series that generate the remaining coefficients. The author then says the standard value of C1 and C0 are used, but he fails to mention what the standard is?!? Can anyone tell me what the initial values are? I found somewhere that the convention is 2n but I want to make sure.
 
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It's Shankar's QM book. I'm having another difficulty as well. The recursion relation is
Cn+2=Cn(2n+1-2ε)/(n+1)(n+2) where we added the constraint ε=(2n+1)/2. How can I generate any coefficients with this formula? For any N, the numerator is 0 because we had to choose ε that way in order for the series to terminate.
 
It's a confusing notation. It would be better to say that there must be some ##n=N## such that ##\epsilon = (2N+1)/2## and ##C_{N+2}## = 0. Then the ##C_n## with ##n\leq N## can be nonzero and determined by the recursion relation in terms of ##C_0## or ##C_1##. You should try this out for some particular value like ##N=5##.
 
Thanks! I realized my mistake. I was thinking the ε was determined by the n in each term of the sum. I see now that the ε you choose for the nth hermite polynomial is the same for every term in the sum so that numerator in the recursion relationship is only 0 for the nth coefficient and up! It is a very confusing notation. He should have a different index for the specific ε than the dummy index in the sum. That's why I got confused.
 

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