Hi, the wikipedia article on fermium states that it is the last

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The discussion revolves around the synthesis of elements, specifically focusing on fermium as the last element that can be synthesized by neutron bombardment. Participants explore the mechanisms behind element creation, particularly the processes of neutron absorption and beta decay, and the limitations encountered with heavier elements.

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  • One participant notes that elements heavier than Uranium and Plutonium are created through neutron absorption followed by beta decay, which increases the atomic number.
  • Another participant speculates that past fermium, the nucleus may not absorb neutrons effectively and could instead fission or eject particles upon neutron absorption.
  • A participant questions the underlying reasons for the limitations of neutron bombardment and the potential for using alpha particles instead.
  • It is mentioned that alpha particle absorption changes the element by adding two protons, but the reasons for the limitations in neutron absorption are not fully explained.
  • One participant suggests that short half-lives of heavier elements necessitate a stable target for synthesis and explains that while neutron bombardment increases atomic number by one, using alpha particles or heavy ions can achieve greater increases in atomic number.
  • Specific examples of heavy ions used in the synthesis of elements like Nobelium, Rutherfordium, and Copernicium are provided, indicating a preference for heavy ions over neutrons for creating heavier elements.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms and limitations of synthesizing elements beyond fermium, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the lack of detailed explanations for the observed phenomena and the dependence on specific conditions for neutron absorption and element synthesis.

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Hi, the wikipedia article on fermium states that it is the last element that can be synthesized by neutron bombardment but decides not to explain why. Can anybody give a layman's explanation? Thanks.
 
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Elements heavier than Uranium and Plutonium are created when neutrons are absorbed into the nucleus and then Beta Decay into a proton. This creates a new element since the number of protons differentiate the different elements. Past fermium, I'm guessing that the nucleus will no longer absorb a neutron and then beta decay. It most likely will fission or simply eject other particles as soon as the neutron is absorbed.
 


Drakkith said:
Elements heavier than Uranium and Plutonium are created when neutrons are absorbed into the nucleus and then Beta Decay into a proton. This creates a new element since the number of protons differentiate the different elements. Past fermium, I'm guessing that the nucleus will no longer absorb a neutron and then beta decay. It most likely will fission or simply eject other particles as soon as the neutron is absorbed.

Yeah but what is the reason behind that? And why would you be able to do it instead with something like an alpha particle?
 


Jarwulf said:
Yeah but what is the reason behind that? And why would you be able to do it instead with something like an alpha particle?

absorption of an alpha particle immediately changes the atom to another element since you are adding 2 protons.

As to the why, I can't tell you. I'm not an expert on nuclear physics.
 


Primarily because of the short half-lives. You need a target that will sit still long enough. And neutron bombardment followed by beta decay only takes you one step up, Z -> Z + 1. Using alpha particles instead will take you two steps, but more realistically it's better to use heavy ions. To make Nobelium they used 13C ions. Rutherfordium it was 22Ne, Seaborgium it was 18O, and so on. The highest element named so far, Copernicium (at no = 112), was found using 70Zn on 208Pb.
 

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