Higgs Field vs Fields Giving Rise to Virtual Particles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between the Higgs field and the fields that give rise to virtual particles, exploring whether they are distinct entities and how they might interact with elementary particles. The scope includes theoretical concepts from quantum field theory and the implications of these fields on particle mass and interactions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the Higgs field is distinct from the fields that produce virtual particles, suggesting a potential connection or separation between them.
  • One participant explains the role of the Higgs field as a scalar field that provides mass to gauge bosons through spontaneous symmetry breaking, but does not clarify its relationship to virtual particles.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the Higgs field's ability to produce virtual particles, indicating confusion over the mechanics involved.
  • One participant asserts that the Higgs field and virtual particles are likely distinct, referencing the perturbation theory of quantum field theory and the role of virtual particles in Feynman diagrams.
  • There is a suggestion that all manifestations of mass, particles, and forces may originate from a common source, hinting at a deeper unification that is not fully understood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between the Higgs field and virtual particles, with multiple competing views remaining on whether they are distinct or interconnected.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of fields and particles, and the implications of quantum field theory, but does not resolve the complexities or dependencies involved in these concepts.

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Is the field of the theorized Higgs particle totally distinct from those fields which give rise to fleeting virtual particles? Would the latter also have some kind of 'drag' effect on elementary particles like the Higgs is thought to do?

IH
 
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The Higgs particle is a scalar field which through the mechanism of spontaneous symmetry breaking allows other particles like gauge bosons to have masses. Gauge bosons show up due to required gauge symmetries of the lagrangian. What kind of distinction are you looking for?
 
Polyrhythmic said:
The Higgs particle is a scalar field which through the mechanism of spontaneous symmetry breaking allows other particles like gauge bosons to have masses. Gauge bosons show up due to required gauge symmetries of the lagrangian. What kind of distinction are you looking for?

Hmm...simply, are virtual particles produced (and instantaneously re-absorbed) by the vacuum generated by the Higgs particle's scalar field or by some other field of field theory? (Can such a question be posed in this way or not?)

IH
 
I don't think this makes sense, how would the Higgs field produce virtual particles?
 
"Is the field of the theorized Higgs particle totally distinct from those fields which give rise to fleeting virtual particles?"

most likely yes...I've never read of them being connected.

Try reading here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particles#Properties

The concept of virtual particles arises in the perturbation theory of quantum field theory, an approximation scheme in which interactions (essentially forces) between real particles are calculated in terms of exchanges of virtual particles. Any process involving virtual particles admits a schematic representation known as a Feynman diagram which facilitates the understanding of calculations.

On the other hand, I'd bet that all manifestations originate from a common source...mass,particles, force, energy,time,space...all are related in ways we don't fully understand. Seems like they were all "unified" just prior to and at the big bang..

For a bit more try here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_symmetry_breaking#Importance_within_the_standard_model
 

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