High temperature electrical insolator that repels carbon deposits

In summary, the conversation discusses finding a solution for containing power to a heating element without shorting it to the base/ground through heating element supports. One suggestion is to use a shroud to shadow the supports, but it may not be effective if the carbon is from a decomposing flowing gas. Another potential solution is to use a labyrinth seal at the open end of the shroud. The idea of using a corrugated surface finish or treatment to repel muck is also mentioned, but it still requires occasional cleaning. The main issue is finding an elegant and beneficial solution to prevent carbon deposits from affecting the heating element. Suggestions include directing nitrogen towards the supports or using a shroud with nitrogen inside for an inert atmosphere. The conversation concludes with
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Is there any material/s that will handle CVI furnace temperatures (1250 C) and will either repel carbon deposits or react with it to create a compound that is not electric conductive? Trying to contain power to the heating element without shorting it to the base/ground through heating element supports.
 
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Not offhand. But can you but a shroud around most of the support length to shadow it? Of course if the Carbon is from a decomposing flowing gas this may not help much. A labyrinth seal at the open end of the shroud may be the next step.

(Here is an attempted sketch but it may not render correctly)

Code:
               ___________ shroud
               | 
element        |______________ to wall
suppoort-------|
               |__________

Cheers,
Tom
 
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IIRC, HV & EHV pylon, transformer & switch-gear 'stand-offs' are corrugated to increase path length, but may also have a surface finish / treatment proven to repel muck.

Could be worth a look...

FWIW, even such do need jet-wash cleaning from time to time: My wife got stuck in a shopping centre lift when contract cleaners mistakenly sprayed the 'live' set at local grid station, tripped half the city...
 
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Tom, the deposit IS from gas and about .003" (.076 mm) in a single 2 day run. I have nitrogen flowing to protect, but the main box will always bleed some gas. Hard to seal at that temperature without sinking the boat. Rebuilding the supports is a long, expensive and painful process. Finding a solution will be quite elegant and beneficial, maybe, to other applications.

Nik, I’ll have to find out what IIRC, HV, EHV and FWIW stand for.
 
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'high voltage'
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Quince said:
Tom, the deposit IS from gas and about .003" (.076 mm) in a single 2 day run. I have nitrogen flowing to protect, but the main box will always bleed some gas. Hard to seal at that temperature without sinking the boat. Rebuilding the supports is a long, expensive and painful process. Finding a solution will be quite elegant and beneficial, maybe, to other applications.
Understood. Can you plumb the Nitrogen so it is aimed at the supports? Probably not cheap but maybe the cheapest.

As a last-resort possibility, consider the shroud approach with the Nitrogen delivered inside the shroud for a continuous inert atmosphere.

Interesting problem. please keep us updated.

Cheers,
Tom
 

1. What is a high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits?

A high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits is a material that is used to prevent the buildup of carbon deposits on electrical components that operate at high temperatures. This helps to maintain the efficiency and functionality of the electrical system.

2. How does a high temperature electrical insulator repel carbon deposits?

A high temperature electrical insulator repels carbon deposits by having a surface that is resistant to carbon buildup. This can be achieved through the use of special coatings or materials that are not easily affected by high temperatures and carbon deposits.

3. What are the benefits of using a high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits?

The main benefit of using a high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits is that it helps to improve the performance and lifespan of electrical components. By preventing the buildup of carbon deposits, the insulator can help to reduce the risk of electrical malfunctions and failures.

4. Where is a high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits commonly used?

A high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits is commonly used in industrial and commercial settings where high temperatures and electrical systems are present. This includes applications such as power plants, manufacturing facilities, and aerospace technology.

5. How can I choose the right high temperature electrical insulator that repels carbon deposits for my application?

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