Higher efficiency in spray painting metal tanks.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to increase the efficiency of spray painting metal tanks, focusing on reducing paint wastage and preventing unwanted paint spots on surrounding areas. Participants explore various techniques and considerations related to spray painting practices.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that using an ionizing method with opposite charges for the tank and paint is a common approach to reduce paint loss.
  • Alternatives suggested include standing closer to the tank, using a weaker spray gun, employing a narrower jet, or opting for thicker paint.
  • Another participant recommends avoiding a very fine spray and using larger paint droplets to minimize the influence of air movement on paint particles during flight.
  • A participant mentions that dipping the tanks into paint is not feasible due to the size of the tanks and lack of a proper paint shop.
  • Concerns are raised about the high percentage of paint lost to the air, leading to paint settling on unintended surfaces, including nearby structures and personal protective equipment.
  • One participant describes issues with paint spots appearing on cars and monitors due to floating paint particles in the air.
  • Suggestions include rigging canvas screens around the painting area to prevent paint spots on surrounding items.
  • Participants discuss the economic implications of paint wastage, noting that if customers are charged separately for paint, there may be less motivation to save it, despite potential cost savings.
  • Trade-offs between saving paint and increasing labor costs due to longer painting times are highlighted as a consideration in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of methods and considerations for improving paint efficiency, but there is no consensus on a single best approach. Multiple competing views on techniques and their implications remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects practical challenges in a non-ideal painting environment, including the lack of trained personnel and proper facilities, which may affect the implementation of suggested methods.

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When a hand spray painting gun is used to paint say metal tanks, about 80% of the paint is lost in the air.

This not only leads to a wastage of paint, but also the paint partivles settle on other stuff causing paint spots.

What method can be used to reduce this?

One is ionizing the tank and the paint with opposite charges.

Can anyone suggest any other method?

Thanks!
 
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One is ionizing the tank and the paint with opposite charges.
That's the common one.
You can stand closer to the tank and use a weaker spray gun, use a narrower jet from the gun, thicker paint, or just don't use a spray gun ... dip the tanks into a pool of paint or use a brush or a roller.
 
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Avoid a very fine spray. Use the biggest paint droplets practical. Big particles are less influenced by local air movement during flight. Economy is important. It will take more skill to avoid runs, but you will not develop that skill without practice.
 
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Thanks a lot guys!

Dipping is not really an option as we don't have a proper paint shop and the tanks are pretty big.

But the other things can be tried.
 
Weird that you lose such a high percentage of the paint to the air.
That would mean you basically get a big cloud of paint around the tank with most of it falling to the ground or blowing away ... there must be a fine coat of paint over nearby fences, walls, buildings, painters.
Your face-masks and eye protection (and coveralls, and hat) must end up with as much paint (at least!) as the tanks.

When kids spray-bomb a wall they just stand close and almost all of it goes onto the graffiti.
 
It isn't an exact calculation, but yeah, a lot of it. There was a problem of yellow spots appearing on cars and monitors on account of the floating paint!

Like I said, it isn't a proper paint shop so the guys doing the paint aren't really trained and saving isn't a big deal to them.
 
Rigging canvas screens around the painting area is good too - saves getting yellow spots on stuff.

If the customer is paying for the paint used separately, and they are happy with the price, then there is not a lot of motivation to save paint. If you could get a decent estimate of how much paint is being wasted, then you could work out the dollar saving - which translates into competitiveness or higher profits by reducing materials costs.
That could persuade them.

Saving paint, though, may mean taking longer in the painting ... which increases labor costs and the job may be time-critical. You should explore what the trade-offs actually are.
 

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