Homogenization of a plate to an equivalent rod .

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of homogenizing a steel plate into an equivalent rod with the same stiffness. Participants explore the theoretical and practical implications of this transformation, including calculations related to stiffness and mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of a formula to convert the stiffness of a steel plate to that of an equivalent rod.
  • Another participant suggests a method for determining the rod's stiffness by first calculating the plate's deflection under load and then equating the plate stiffness to the rod stiffness, introducing parameters such as modulus of elasticity, cross-sectional area, and length.
  • A subsequent participant questions whether the plate and rod would have the same mass after homogenization.
  • Another response clarifies that the plate and rod typically will not have the same mass, but notes that it is possible to design them to have the same mass by applying a constraint equation involving density and volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mass of the plate and rod after homogenization, indicating that there is no consensus on this aspect of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the conditions under which the stiffness equivalence holds or the implications of mass equivalence in the homogenization process.

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Homogenization of a plate to an equivalent rod...

Folks, I have a doubt... Sorry if it is a really stupid one...:rolleyes:

Imagine you have a steel plate say 200mm by 200mm in dimension, with a stiffness of say some "k" N/mm...

Is there any formula to convert that plate into an equivalent steel rod with the same stiffness of "k" N/mm?...

Waiting for your answers.....:bugeye:
 
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First, compute the plate deflection under the applied load. Then divide the applied load by the plate deflection to obtain the plate stiffness, kp. Now set kp equal to the rod stiffness, kr, where kr = E*A/L, E = rod modulus of elasticity, A = rod cross-sectional area, and L = rod length. For the three parameters E, A, and L, arbitrarily set any two of these parameters, and solve for the third.
 


Ok thanks buddy... Thank you very much...
 


will the plate and rod have the same mass after homogenization? It won't right?
 
The plate and rod generally will not have the same mass. You could design them to concurrently have the same mass by introducing an additional constraint equation, rhor*Vr = mp, where rhor = rod density, Vr = rod volume, and mp = plate mass.
 

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