Homomorphic normed linear spaces

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The discussion revolves around the properties and relationships of homomorphic normed linear spaces, particularly focusing on questions of dimensionality, continuity, and the definitions of homomorphisms and isomorphisms. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications in mathematics.

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  • Some participants question whether homomorphic normed linear spaces must have the same dimension if both are finite-dimensional.
  • There is a proposal that a homomorphism could exist between an infinite-dimensional normed space and a finite-dimensional one, though this remains uncertain.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the terminology, with some suggesting that "isomorphic" may be a more appropriate term than "homomorphic."
  • One participant argues that a continuous bijection with a continuous inverse is defined as a homeomorphism, while another emphasizes that a one-to-one homomorphism is not necessarily an isomorphism.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of proving whether R^n is homeomorphic to R^m for n ≠ m, with references to advanced tools from algebraic topology.
  • There is a suggestion that real normed linear spaces of finite dimension may always be isomorphic to R^n, and that their properties could be determined by their homeomorphism type.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of homomorphisms and isomorphisms, with no consensus reached on whether the terms can be used interchangeably or the implications of dimensionality in homomorphic spaces.

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There are unresolved definitions and assumptions regarding the terms "homomorphic," "isomorphic," and "homeomorphic," as well as the implications of dimensionality in the context of normed linear spaces.

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Hi all experts,
I've just visitted another Maths forum and picked up two interesting questions:
Question 1. Let H and K be homomorphic normed linear spaces. Is it necessary that H and K have the same dimension if both H and K are finite-dimension ? Is there possible a homomorphism between an infinite-dimension normed space and a finite-dimension one ?
Question 2. If f is a homomorphism between two normed linear spaces, is f necessary uniformly continuous ?
Hope to get your ideas.
 
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Let H and K be homomorphic normed linear spaces.
Did you menan to say "isomorphic"?


Have you given much thought to these questions?
 
By saying "H and K is homomorphic", I mean that there is an one-to-one mapping f from H to K such that both f and f^{-1} (the inverse of f) are continous. Perhaps, this concept should be called "isomorphic" and sorry if I made a mistake.

If H=R and K=R^2, I think R and R^2 cannot be holomorphic because if we remove a point of R, such as x, then R\{x} is no longer a connected set, but R^2\{f(x)} is still a connected set. Here, f is an one-to-one from R to R^2 such that f and f^{-1} are continuos.
 
A continuous bijection with a continuous inverse is an homeomorphism.
 
A one-to-one homomorphism between 2 algebraic structures is an isomorphism.


Daniel.
 
No it isn't. The inclusion of Z into Q or R (as additive groups) is a one to one homomorphism. It is not an isomorphism.
 
So, I think the phrase needed here is "homeomorphic isomorphism" or perhaps "isomorphic homeomorphism"!
 
To show R^n is not isomorphic to R^m as a vector space for n[itex]\neq[/itex]m, you can just show that isomorphism preserves dimension (ie, show a basis is mapped to a basis). Showing they are not homeomorphic as topological spaces is much more difficult. It can be done using cut points as in post 3 for n=1, but above this you need more advanced tools from algebraic topology. And what do you mean by uniformly continuous?
 
real normed linear spaces of finite dimension are probably always isomorphic to R^n. then they are determined by their homeomorphism type i would guess. a proof tends to involve homology theory.
 

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