Horizontal Eavestrough Problem

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The problem involves a horizontal eavestrough with a triangular cross section, focusing on the rates of change of water volume and surface level during a rainstorm and after drainage. The subject area includes calculus, specifically related rates and geometric relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the volume of water in the trough and explore relationships between the base and height of the triangular cross section. There are attempts to differentiate the volume with respect to time to find rates of change.

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Some participants have provided calculations and expressed confusion regarding discrepancies in expected results. Others have questioned the assumptions made about the relationships between the dimensions of the triangle, suggesting a need to reconsider the logic used in deriving the relationships.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between the variables involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A horizontal eavestrough 3m long has a triangular cross section 10 cm across the top and 10 cm deep. During a rainstorm the water in the trough is rising at the rate of 1 cm/min when the depth is 5 cm.

a) How fast is the volume of water in the trough increasing?
b) After the rain stopped, the water drained out of the trough at the rate of 0.06 m3/min. How fast is the surface of the water falling when the depth is 1 cm?

The Attempt at a Solution


V =[tex]\frac{1}{2}[/tex] bhl

Solving in terms of b:
b 5
-- = --
h 10
 
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ghostanime2001 said:

Homework Statement


A horizontal eavestrough 3m long has a triangular cross section 10 cm across the top and 10 cm deep. During a rainstorm the water in the trough is rising at the rate of 1 cm/min when the depth is 5 cm.

a) How fast is the volume of water in the trough increasing?
b) After the rain stopped, the water drained out of the trough at the rate of 0.06 m3/min. How fast is the surface of the water falling when the depth is 1 cm?

The Attempt at a Solution


V =[tex]\frac{1}{2}[/tex] bhl

Solving in terms of b:
b 5
-- = --
h 10
I'm not entirely sure what you're doing here. You're given dl and dh at a certain time and you're asked to determine dV.
 
I know this formula that relates Volume with base, height and length of the water trough. The formula is V=1/2 bhl

From similar triangles:
5/10 = b/h
5h=10b
b=5/10 h
b=1/2h

Then substituting 1/2h for b into the formula we get:
V=1/2(1/2 h)hl
V=1/2(1/2 h2 l)
V=1/4 h2 l
Now differentiating h we get:
dV/dt = 2(1/4)h dh/dt l
dV/dt = 1/2h dh/dt l
Now submitting in all the values we get:
dV/dt = 1/2(5 cm)(1 cm/min)(300 cm)
dV/dt = 750 cm3/min

However the answer is 1500 cm3/min. Now my question is WHAT HAPPENED!? i did everything correct from everything I've learned but i still don't get the correct answer... :( please help me understand thank you.

as for b) ill wait until i get the first part correct.
 
When the trough is full b=10, and h=10. When the trough is half full b=5 and h=5, right? The correct relation is b=h, not b=(1/2)h. I would rethink the logic that lead you to that.
 

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