Housefly Sticky Feet: Diseases & Bacteria

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The discussion revolves around the role of houseflies in disease transmission, specifically whether they carry harmful bacteria more effectively through their sticky feet or the hairs on their feet. Participants explore the feeding habits of houseflies, the implications of their behavior on food safety, and the use of maggots in medical treatments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether houseflies carry more diseases through their sticky feet or the hairs on their feet, specifically referring to the tarsis.
  • Another participant describes the feeding behavior of houseflies, noting that they exude saliva onto food and can lay eggs on various substrates, including decaying matter and open wounds.
  • Concerns are raised about the rapid hatching of fly eggs in warm conditions, which could exacerbate bacterial contamination.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of keeping flies away from food rather than focusing on the bacteria present on the flies themselves.
  • The discussion includes references to maggot therapy, with participants noting that maggots can excrete substances that kill bacteria, including those resistant to antibiotics.
  • There is mention of specific fly species used in medicinal applications and their selective consumption of necrotic tissue, which may reduce infection rates.

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Participants express varying views on the primary concern regarding houseflies and disease transmission, with no consensus on whether the sticky feet or the hairs are more significant. The discussion also includes differing opinions on the implications of maggot therapy and its effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about the behavior of houseflies and the conditions under which they transmit bacteria. The discussion does not resolve the specifics of how bacteria are transferred or the effectiveness of maggot therapy in all cases.

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Do houseflies carry more diseases (harmful bacteria) trough it's sticky feet or through the hairs on its feet (as they get stuck between them).Please reply fast...Thanks
 
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By hairs, i am talking about the tarsis and not the hairs on its feet pad under the claws
 
Charming subject.

Houseflies have taste sensation in their feet, and in order to eat they exude saliva onto the food they are standing on then stand in/near it. They inject their proboscis into the substrate and suck it up like we do with a straw. If they deem the substrate worthy. And worthy substrates vary from open wounds in animals to decaying organic matter or fecal matter.

If the substrate passes muster, gravid females will also deposit eggs on the surface. Depending on the ambient temperature and the temp of substrate, say potato salad, eggs can hatch in matter of minutes. Obviously if the bacteria are given time as well, then things are even worse.

I would consider keeping flies off food more important than worrying about how many bacteria are where on a housefly. PS: consider not drinking a glass of a beverage that you see a dead fly floating in. Distilled spirits like whiskey might be okay, since ethanol kills a lot of pathogenic bacteria.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housefly

-- Let's see how much PF humor this thread generates. That last one like this did a good job.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Charming subject.

Houseflies have taste sensation in their feet, and in order to eat they exude saliva onto the food they are standing on then stand in/near it. They inject their proboscis into the substrate and suck it up like we do with a straw. If they deem the substrate worthy. And worthy substrates vary from open wounds in animals to decaying organic matter or fecal matter.

If the substrate passes muster, gravid females will also deposit eggs on the surface. Depending on the ambient temperature and the temp of substrate, say potato salad, eggs can hatch in matter of minutes.
Minutes?? :eek:

Obviously if the bacteria are given time as well, then things are even worse.
:bugeye:

I would consider keeping flies off food more important than worrying about how many bacteria are where on a housefly. PS: consider not drinking a glass of a beverage that you see a dead fly floating in.
How about gnats, can you continue drinking if you fish the gnat out? :rolleyes:
 
jim mcnamara said:
Depending on the ambient temperature and the temp of substrate, say potato salad, eggs can hatch in matter of minutes. Obviously if the bacteria are given time as well, then things are even worse.

The bacteria don't stand a chance. Maggots excrete stuff that really does kill "all" bugs, including those resistant to man made antibiotics.

That's one reason "maggot therapy" for cleaning wounds is making a comeback, after it took a big knock when penicillin was discovered. If you use specially bred sterile maggots, they only eat the dead bits and kill the bugs, without damaging the live tissue that you want to heal.
 
AlephZero said:
The bacteria don't stand a chance. Maggots excrete stuff that really does kill "all" bugs, including those resistant to man made antibiotics.

That's one reason "maggot therapy" for cleaning wounds is making a comeback, after it took a big knock when penicillin was discovered. If you use specially bred sterile maggots, they only eat the dead bits and kill the bugs, without damaging the live tissue that you want to heal.
Oh, I saw that demonstrated on tv. I hope I don't ever have to have maggot therapy.
 
Evo said:
Minutes?? :eek:

Flesh flies are even ovoviviparous.
 
Greenbottle flies are the species of choice for a majority of medicinal maggot applications. Some species of maggots do excrete antibiotic compounds.

Protophormia spp - ex: bluebottle flies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protophormia_terraenovae

Their antibiotics are not super-broad spectrum. The reason that proper usage of maggots for debridment decreases infection rates is necrotic tissue is selectively consumed by the maggots. This reduces the available infection sites for bacteria.

Not-for-reading-while-eating: See the section == Biology of flies and maggots... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_therapy
 

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