How Accurate Are Crude Estimates in Electric Dipole Transitions?

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The discussion focuses on estimating the mean life of electric dipole transitions in atomic and nuclear contexts, specifically for photon energies of Eγ = 10 eV and Eγ = 1 MeV. The relevant equation for transition rates is provided, utilizing the fine structure constant (α = 1/137) and incorporating typical length scales such as the Bohr radius for atoms and 1 femtometer for nuclei. The participant, Fluffy, calculates transition rates yielding W = 1.1 x 109 1/s for atoms and W = 3.82 x 1014 1/s for nuclei, leading to lifetimes on the order of 10-8 seconds for atomic transitions. Fluffy seeks guidance on improving the estimation process.

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Hey
have another problem with one of my exercises

Homework Statement


Make a crude estimate for the mean life of an electric dipole transition

in a atom E_\gamma = 10 eV
in a nucleus E_\gamma = 1 MeV


Homework Equations


W_{\alpha \beta} &amp;=&amp; \frac{4}{3} \frac{e^2}{\hbar^4 c^3} E_\gamma^3 |&lt;\beta|\vec{x}|\alpha&gt;|^2 \<br /> &amp;=&amp; \frac{4}{3} \frac{\alpha}{\hbar^3 c^2} E_\gamma^3 |&lt;\beta|\vec{x}|\alpha&gt;|^2
with the first \alpha beeing the fine structure constant \alpha = \frac{e^2}{\hbar c}=\frac{1}{137}


The Attempt at a Solution


I am not quite sure how to estimate the last factor in the equation. Since we just have to do a crude estimate i don't think we have to calculate it with real wavefunctions(dont know if there are even wavefunctions for nuclei)
So my first thought was since |&lt;\beta|\vec{x}|\alpha&gt;|^2 has the dimension of a length^2 I inserted the typical lengthscales of an atom, the Bohr radius, and for the nucleus 1fm.
For the atom I get W= 1.1 10^9 1/s and for the nucleus 3.82 *10^14 1/s.
The lifetime is just the inverse of these. But I think the lifetime is then too small, I have something like 10^(-8) in my mind for the atom.
Anyone has a idea how to estimate it in a better way?

Bye
Fluffy
 
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Crude estimates of this type are usually handled with the Uncertainty principle.
 

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