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The discussion revolves around evaluating a trigonometric expression involving secant and sine functions, specifically the expression 4sec(180°) - 2sin²(270°). Participants are exploring the accuracy of their calculations and the underlying concepts of trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to calculate the expression and question the correctness of their results. There is a discussion about the signs of trigonometric functions at specific angles, particularly sec(180°) and sin(270°). Some participants also explore the definitions of secant and cosine in relation to the unit circle.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing attempts at solutions and questioning their understanding of trigonometric identities. Some guidance is offered regarding the definitions of trigonometric functions, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented.

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Participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the properties of trigonometric functions, indicating a need for clarification on definitions and signs associated with specific angles.

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Homework Statement



4sec180° - 2sin2270°




The Attempt at a Solution



sec(180 is -1.

So we have 4(-1) which is -4

sin2(270 is -1
So we have 2(-1)

This now reads -4 - -2

Answer = -2


Is this correct or do I suck at this? =(
 
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What sign must the square of a real number always have?
 
Positive?
 
Yes. sin(270)= -1 so sin2(270)= (-1)2= (-1)(-1)= 1.
 
Ok let me try this again:

The attempt at a solution

sec(180 is -1.

So we have 4(-1) which is -4

sin2(270 is (-1)2 which is 1

So we have 2(1)

This now reads -4 - 2

Answer = -6


Is this right?
 
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Ok here is another question, a bit off topic. I know that sec(180 = -1. But this is the question I have.

-When looking at 180° in standard position, we realize that y is 0 and x is any given number along the x axis.
-sec is understood to be r/x.

- So let's say I choose (5,0)
-I need to find r, so we do square root of (5)2 + (0)2
-Which leads to the square root of 25
-Squared is 5

Therefore 5/5 = 1 and sec=1

My question is why in the calculator it says sec(180 is -1? Is it because 180° lies in both the negative x quadrants (II and III) and the positive x quadrants (I and IV?) Since it lies in both a negative and positive x axis, it must be -1 instead of 1? This confuses me a little bit, I know I probably sound like a moron for even asking such a question.
 
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Remember \sec x = \frac{1}{\cos x} by definition. Do you remember the definitions of the trig functions on the unit circle? If you do, Cos 180° should be quite easy seen to be 1 =]
 
Plot your (5,0) point on a graph. Draw an arrow from the origin to the point. Which direction (degrees) does the arrow point?
 

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