How Are Triangles Used to Represent Vectors in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the use of triangles to represent vectors in physics, particularly in the context of projectile motion. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between triangle geometry and vector quantities, specifically in a scenario involving a pitched ball and its velocity.

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  • Participants explore the distinction between the geometric representation of triangles and the abstract nature of vector quantities. Questions are raised about the relevance of vectors in solving the problem and the relationship between triangle legs and vector components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the definitions and roles of vectors and Cartesian coordinates in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conceptual framework of vectors, but no consensus has been reached on the specific application to the problem at hand.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the application of triangle geometry to vector representation, as well as a lack of clarity on the definitions of vectors and coordinate systems. The original problem involves specific parameters such as angle and distance, which may influence the discussion.

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As someone who has just started Physics, when triangles were introduced in my physics it caught me in surprise. If the legs of triangle were heights It would somewhat make more sense to me, but our teacher says their are velocities. I do not understand.

For example :

A pitched ball is hit by a batter at 49 degrees angle. It just clears the outfield fence, 94 m away. the acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s squared.

Find the velocity of the ball when it left the bat. Assume the fence is the same height as the pitch.
 
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When we are considering various lengths we are using a good old triangle but when we are considering velocities we are using vector quantities which have components (not legs). A triangle is something tangible velocity vectors are not. The legs of a triangle and the components of a vector are completely different concepts. For example, we can add vectors together but what would it mean to add two triangle? More information on the subject can be found in any matrix theory course.
 
To my knowledge vectors are basically the X and Y axis that the triangle's leg travel on. Is it more to it? Can you please explain to me more why the vectors are needed for this problem and how to use them.
 
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To my knowledge vectors are basically the X and Y axis that the triangle's leg travel on. Is it more to it? Can you please explain to me more why the vectors are needed for this problem and how to use them.

Nothing travels on the legs of a triangle. We are describing vectors in a Cartesian coordinate system; vectors have components (analogous to triangle legs) which are easier to describe using the x & y plane.

so,

what is a vector defined to be?
what is a Cartesian coordinate system?
 

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