How Are You Feeling After the Elections?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around participants' emotional responses and reflections following the recent elections, exploring feelings of happiness, sadness, and indifference. It touches on the implications of the election results, political beliefs, and societal issues related to governance and morality.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express feelings of depression and sadness, while others report happiness or indifference regarding the election outcomes.
  • There are mixed feelings about the implications of Bush's re-election, with some anticipating negative consequences and others expressing optimism for the next four years.
  • Several participants discuss the role of moral issues in voting, particularly regarding same-sex marriage and its impact on the election results.
  • Concerns are raised about the influence of religion on politics and the potential for civil rights setbacks under a conservative administration.
  • Some participants note the significance of voter demographics, particularly the correlation between education levels and voting patterns.
  • There are references to specific state-level issues, such as the constitutional amendment defining marriage, and how these influenced voter turnout.
  • Disagreements arise regarding the legitimacy of the election process and the implications of Bush's presidency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of emotions and opinions, with no clear consensus on the overall impact of the election results or the legitimacy of the election itself. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of the election on future governance and civil rights.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the unfinished counting of votes in certain areas, indicating potential concerns about the election process. There are also references to the influence of specific issues on voter behavior, which may not be universally applicable.

  • #31
If Bush had not been re-elected,he most probably would have been assasinated.
 
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  • #32
Gold and foreign currencies are strong only because the dollar is weak, which I think will be the trend for the next few years.
 
  • #33
Hurkyl said:
I suppose the dictionary is a moral text too?
Since you are so involved in math, you should know that definitions are all important. They do contain moral views, and in the most perverse form of all. Think about it : do you use "holiday" or "vacation" ? Is not there a very profound difference ? If you google-define it, you will find for both "leisure time away from work devoted to rest or pleasure". But "vacation" refers to "away from work, not producing" whereas "holiday" would be much closer to "devoted to rest or pleasure" which is very different. So yes indeed, the dictionnary is full of moral considerations.

I could not tell for sure in english, but in french we have very few identical words. Synonyms are usually only similar. Here is an instance of really identical meanings in french : "multicolore" and "polychrome" which I need not translate for you. Apart from those very peculiar instances, the word one uses has a very strong and deep psychological influence on oneself, and a constant use of specific moral terms is usually done on purpose.

The mere fact that your president pretends being "good" against "evil" is a symptom. You also seem to assimilate laws to moral principles. However, laws are not even supposed to be assimilated to ethics. Supposely there is an ethical council which is different and independent from the lawing board. This difference is not so clear in your country, is it ?
 
  • #34
Today's national headline news is "Malaysian Fined Over Fake Jewellery". Click here to see if you don't believe.

The biggest thing to happen in our country this year is the marriage between the Crown Prince and a 17-year-old school girl.

So, it's all good.

You and your lack of turmoil! :mad:
 
  • #35
Gokul43201 said:
How do you feel, after the elections ?

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
 
  • #36
Gokul43201 said:
Here's another way of saying that :

It's interesting how the better educated (and I don't consider attending church, education) folks voted for Kerry.

And that's a better way of saying it - thanks :smile:
 
  • #37
Since you are so involved in math, you should know that definitions are all important.

Yes, and I find it fairly annoying that there are those who seek to change definitions for political and personal gain. A constitutional amendment to block such a maneuver does seems to be a bit of overkill.
 
  • #38
franznietzsche said:
Well he was definitely elected this time. You cannot doubt the legitimacy of this election.

I doubt the legitamacy of his original instatement, and if that is false, it invalidates him winning again.
 
  • #39
Sad cos Bush's pet Blair will be in control of my fair country for another 4 goddamn years.
 
  • #40
jimmy p said:
Sad cos Bush's pet Blair will be in control of my fair country for another 4 goddamn years.

You blasphemer! :rolleyes:
 
  • #41
Mattius_ said:
You and your lack of turmoil! :mad:

:devil: :confused:

Don't worry, I finally caught the envious tone of your statement. :biggrin:
 

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