How Can Electrical Impulses Trigger Needle Movement in Medical Devices?

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The discussion focuses on triggering needle movement in medical devices using electrical impulses, specifically through the use of a solenoid and timer circuit. The solenoid mechanism holds the needle in place until the injection is complete, which takes three minutes, after which a timer activates the solenoid to retract the needle. The conversation highlights the need for cost-effective solutions, as using a motor is deemed too expensive for the application. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the specific medical application to tailor the device's functionality.

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  • Understanding of solenoid operation in medical devices
  • Knowledge of timer circuits for automation
  • Familiarity with injection mechanisms, specifically IM and subcutaneous injections
  • Basic principles of electrical impulses in mechanical systems
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Hello ,
I have an medical device assembly, where I trigger the needle for injection, mechanically, with a pretensioned spring. Injection takes 3 minutes, then I have to retract the needle. How can I trigger the needle, using an electrical impulse ?
 
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AZFIREBALL said:
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Yes, nice proposal. But I don't understand how the solenoid is acting.
I need to trigger the needle retraction, at the end of injection, not immediately after the insertion.
 
You will need a timer circuit to run the solenoid and motor at the proper times.
The solenoid holds the needle up until the time for injection. It fires...the needle goes down. The timer allows 3 min. then triggers the motor to retract the needle until it is again latched up by the solenoid.
Then the cycle starts all over again.
 
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:
Luci said:
Hello ,
I have an medical device assembly, where I trigger the needle for injection, mechanically, with a pretensioned spring. Injection takes 3 minutes, then I have to retract the needle. How can I trigger the needle, using an electrical impulse ?
What is the application? Can't you just use an IV infusion instead? Who is the patient, and what is the injected drug? Does it need to be an IM or subcu injection?
 
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AZFIREBALL said:
You will need a timer circuit to run the solenoid and motor at the proper times.
The solenoid holds the needle up until the time for injection. It fires...the needle goes down. The timer allows 3 min. then triggers the motor to retract the needle until it is again latched up by the solenoid.
Then the cycle starts all over again.
Motor is too expensive for my application.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

What is the application? Can't you just use an IV infusion instead? Who is the patient, and what is the injected drug? Does it need to be an IM or subcu injection?
Needle insertion mechanism is mandatory. I fire the needle using a spring, the drug flows for 3 minutes and then I have to retract the needle. But without using a motor, witch is too expensive.
 
Is this a single shot operation or is it intended to deliver subsequent repeated injections automatically?
 
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Luci said:
Needle insertion mechanism is mandatory. I fire the needle using a spring, the drug flows for 3 minutes and then I have to retract the needle. But without using a motor, witch is too expensive.
You still didn't say what the application is. Keeping a needle steady in a patient for 3 minutes is quite a chore, unless it's an IV tube. Why are you giving an IM injection that takes 3 minutes?
 
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Motors like this on Ebay for $1.99 each. Too expensive? How much have you budgeted for this project?
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