How can Fourier division be used to divide large numbers without a calculator?

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The discussion explores methods for dividing large numbers without the use of a calculator, focusing on techniques such as logarithms, long division, and alternative algorithms like Newton-Raphson and Fourier division.

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  • One participant suggests using logarithms to divide by subtracting logarithms and then applying antilogarithms to find the result.
  • Another participant proposes factoring out obvious powers of ten and simplifying the division step by step, although they express uncertainty about the correctness of their method.
  • Long division is mentioned as a valid algorithm, with a question raised about the existence of faster methods.
  • A participant introduces the slide rule as a potential tool for division without a calculator.
  • Newton-Raphson is presented as an efficient method for computing the reciprocal of a number, with an explanation of its iterative process that avoids direct division.
  • A link to Fourier division is provided as another effective method, though no detailed explanation is given in the thread.

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Participants express a variety of methods for dividing large numbers, with no consensus on a single preferred technique. Some methods are debated, and uncertainty remains regarding the effectiveness and correctness of certain approaches.

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Some methods discussed may depend on specific assumptions or definitions, and the effectiveness of each method may vary based on the context of use.

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How would you Divide very large numbers without using a calculator?
EX. [tex]\frac{125000}{299000000}[/tex]
 
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Long ago, before calculators, logarithms were used and invented for this purpose. You'd divide by subtracting logarithms and antilog the result to get the answer.
 
One should usually first take out the obvious powers of ten, then factorize.

e.g.

[tex]\frac{125000}{299000000} = \frac{125}{299000}=\frac{5^3}{299\cdot 10^3} = \frac{5^3}{299\cdot (2\cdot 5)^3} = \frac{1}{299\cdot 2^3}[/tex]

And [tex]299\cdot 8 = 3 \cdot 10^2 \cdot 8 - 8 = 24 \cdot 10^2 - 8 = 2400 - 8 = 2392[/tex],

so that

[tex]\frac{125000}{299000000} = \frac{1}{2392}[/tex]

Which by hand is good enough for me.

(This might be wrong tho, it is kinda late here)
 
"How would you Divide very large numbers without using a calculator? "

Long division is a correct algorithm. Are you asking whether or not there exists a faster way?
 
csprof2000 said:
"How would you Divide very large numbers without using a calculator? "

Long division is a correct algorithm. Are you asking whether or not there exists a faster way?

Yes I am asking for a faster way.
 
Stratosphere said:
without using a calculator?

Slide rule?
 
You could use Newton-Raphson. Computing x = 1/y for given y amounts to solving the equation:

1/x - y = 0

Then, Newton-Raphson yields the following recursion for the nth approximation


x_{n+1} = x_n - (1/x_n - y)/(-1/x_n^2) =

x_n +x_n -y x_n^2 =

2 x_n - y x_n^2

The iteration doesn't involve any divisions, so it is a true division algorithm. The number of correct digits doubles after each iteration, while with long division you only get one decimal at a time, so it is much faster than long division.
 

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