How can i calculate pressure drop in air compressor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating pressure drop in air compressors, specifically addressing the differences between incompressible and compressible flow. Participants explore various methods and formulas for determining pressure drop in piping systems related to air compressors.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the applicability of the Moody diagram for air compressors and the distinction between incompressible and compressible flow.
  • Another participant suggests that incompressible flow equations (Darcy-Weisbach) can be used for air flow velocities below 0.3 Mach, while compressible flow analysis is necessary for higher velocities.
  • A formula from an Atlas Copco manual for calculating pressure drop is presented, which includes variables for airflow, pipe diameter, length, and initial pressure.
  • Participants discuss the appropriateness of using the provided formula for pressure drop calculations in pipelines.
  • A calculation is shared, demonstrating the conversion of airflow to velocity and the determination of Mach number, leading to a question about the use of incompressible flow equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the use of the Moody diagram or the applicability of the Darcy-Weisbach equations for their specific scenarios, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty regarding the best approach for calculating pressure drop in air compressors.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about flow conditions, the definitions of compressible versus incompressible flow, and the specific contexts in which the discussed formulas apply. Some mathematical steps and conditions for using certain equations remain unresolved.

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hi friends,
I am confused with incompressible and compressible flow.Can i use moody diagram for air compressor.How can i calculate pressure drop in pipe.
 
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As long as the velocity of the air flow < 0.3 Mach, the incompressible flow equations (Darcy-Weisbach) can be used to calculate pressure drop in a piping system. Once speed > 0.3 Mach, then a different analysis using compressible flow is called for.

I don't know what you mean by 'Can I use moody diagram for air compressor?'

Crane Technical Paper 410 covers some simple compressible flows for air and other gases. It's worth laying your hands on a copy.
 
I found a formula from atlas copco manual
p1-p2=(450*(q^1,85)*L)/((d^5)*p)
q=air flow (l/s)
d=internal pipe diameter(mm)
l=length of the pipe bar(a)
p=absolute initial pressure

atlas copco products air compressor.Can i use this formula to calculate pressure drop in pipeline?
 
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It's worth a shot. Remember, pressure is in units of bars.
 
air compressor Q=2,6m^3/min D(diameter)=50mm P(pressure)=7,5Bar

V=Q/A ---> V=4*(2,6/60)/(3,14*0,05^2)

V=22,08m/s MACH=22,08/340=0,064

Can i use incompressible flow equations(DARCY-WEİSBACH)?
 

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