What happens to the Low Pass Filter as frequency approaches 0 and infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a low pass filter as the frequency approaches 0 and infinity. Participants explore the mathematical representation of the filter's function and analyze its limits in these extreme cases.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the low pass filter function as 1/x(sqrt(R^2+1/(x^2))) and suggests examining its limits as frequency approaches 0 and infinity.
  • Another participant questions the initial post, implying that a solution attempt is expected, indicating a homework-related context.
  • A self-studying participant argues that the filter should equal 1 at DC (x = 0) and approach 0 as frequency approaches infinity, but acknowledges a complication due to the first term becoming infinite at DC.
  • Another participant provides a method for analyzing the limits, suggesting that as x approaches infinity, the function simplifies to 1/(xR), while as x approaches 0, it simplifies to 1/sqrt(x^2 R^2 + 1).
  • A participant reflects on their earlier misunderstanding regarding the behavior of the function as x approaches 0, admitting to a misinterpretation of the equation's implications.

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Participants express differing views on the behavior of the low pass filter at the limits of frequency, with no consensus reached on the implications of the mathematical analysis.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the function's behavior at the limits, highlighting the influence of the first term and the need for careful consideration of the mathematical expressions involved.

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Low pass filter function

1/x(sqrt(R^2+1/(x^2)))

Just to show the limits as x approaches 0 and infinity, where x is frequency.
 
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Concise question ! Looks like homework, so PF culture requires some attempt at solution on your part. What do you propose ?
 
Self studier here, not enrolled in a course so HW is kind of a misnomer.

It should equal 1 at x = 0 ie DC, open circuit for capacitor and zero for frequency approaches infinity ie capacitor is short circuit.

It can't tho cos of the first term in x goes to 1/0 ie infinite at DC.
 
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Kudos !

Simple recipe: for ##\ \ x\downarrow 0\ \ ## you want to be looking at something like ##\ \ A + x\ \ ## and for ##\ \ x\rightarrow\infty\ \ ## you want something like ##\ \ B + {1\over x}\ \ ##.

To wit for ##\ \ x\rightarrow\infty\ \ ##:$$ { 1\over x \sqrt{R^2+{1\over x^2}}}$$the last term in the denominator disappears besides R2 so you are left with ##1\over x R##.

For ##\ \ x\downarrow 0\ \ ## you bring the x inside the root: $${ 1\over \sqrt{x^2 R^2+1}}$$ and now the first term disappears besides the 1.
 
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thanks, I cast the problem of x approaching 0 as

(1/x)*1/(stuff)

and wrongly insisted that due to the first term (1/x) that the behaviour had to blow up to infinity.

I wanted the equation to fit my expectation even tho I knew the behaviour of the low pass in advance.
 

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