How can i express this Infinite series without a summation symbol?

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The discussion revolves around expressing the infinite series (1/2) + (2/4) + ... + (n/(2^n)) without using the summation symbol. Participants explore various interpretations of the question, including symbolic notation, alternate expressions, and methods for evaluation.

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  • One participant asks if the goal is to find a symbolic notation for the sum without the summation symbol, or if they seek an alternate expression for easier evaluation.
  • Another participant confirms that the intention is to calculate the sum for an arbitrary n.
  • A proposed expression for the sum is given as 2^{-n} \left(-n+2^{n+1}-2\right), though its correctness is challenged by another participant.
  • A participant introduces a function F(x) to represent the series and derives that F(1/2) equals the sum, concluding that F(1/2)=2 and suggesting a similar approach for finite n.
  • A later reply expresses frustration over previous attempts to post similar responses and affirms the correctness of the previous participant's method using generating functions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the proposed expression for the sum, with some expressing uncertainty and others affirming different approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to express the series without a summation symbol.

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There are limitations in the clarity of the original question, as participants interpret it in multiple ways. Additionally, the correctness of the mathematical expressions presented is not agreed upon.

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(1/2) + (2/4) + ... + (n/(2^n))

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sum i=1 to i=infinity of (i/(2^i))?i know how to express the sum of just 1/(2^i), but not the above

thanks for the help!
 
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I don't understand the question.
1. Do you want a symbolic notation for a sum without using the standard summation symbol?
2. Are you instead asking for how the standard summation symbol looks like?
3. Do you wish to find an alternate expression for the sum, i.e, calculate it in a manner so that it is easy to evaluate it for an arbitrarily chosen n?
 
I think you mean 3, i.e, how to calculate that sum. Am I right?
 
yea number 3
 
[tex]2^{-n} \left(-n+2^{n+1}-2\right)[/tex]
 
ice109 said:
[tex]2^{-n} \left(-n+2^{n+1}-2\right)[/tex]

This is so instructive...!:rolleyes:
 
the summation is not 0, the above is only slightly correct ;)
 
Pere Callahan said:
This is so instructive...!:rolleyes:

did he ask for instruction?
 
Let us consider the function:
[tex]F(x)=\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}i*x^{i}[/tex]
Note that F(1/2) equals your sum!
Now, we may write:
[tex]F(x)=x*\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}i*x^{i-1}=x*\frac{d}{dx}\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}x^{i}=x*\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{1}{1-x}-1)=\frac{x}{(1-x)^{2}}[/tex]
Hence, we easily gain F(1/2)=2.

For arbitrary finite n, use a similar procedure.
 
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Bah, I wrote a similar response using generating functions... twice... and physics forums died on me both times so nothing was posted.

Arildno's response is entirely correct though
 

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