How can I find the bases and generated subspace for a given set of vectors?

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The discussion revolves around finding the dimension and bases of a subspace in R3 generated by the vectors (1,2,3), (4,5,6), and (7,8,9). The original poster seeks to understand the mechanics of determining the bases and the generated subspace without receiving a complete solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of a system of equations to find the span of the given vectors and the implications of using a homogeneous system. There is an exploration of Gaussian elimination and its results on the augmented matrix.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the row-reduction process and the conditions for consistency in the system of equations. Some guidance is offered regarding the interpretation of the results from Gaussian elimination and the generation of basis vectors.

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There is mention of a solution provided by the teacher, indicating a dimension of 2 and examples of bases, but the original poster explicitly requests not to receive the solution, focusing instead on understanding the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement


From the course of Linear Algebra and Analytic Geometry

I need to find the dimension and two different bases of subspace R3 generated by vectors (1,2,3), (4,5,6), (7,8,9).

Homework Equations


None.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried

(a,b,c)=α1(1,2,3)+α2(4,5,6)+α3(7,8,9)

which became

a = α1 + 4α2 + 7α3
b = 2α1 + 5α2 + 8α3
c = 3α1 + 6α2 + 9α3

which (by Gaussian elimination) became an undetermined system with free variable α3.

4. The solution given by teacher
dim=2, example of bases={(1,0,-1),(0,1,2)} or {(2,1,0),(-1,0,1)}

I don't want the solution, I just want to understand the mechanics on how to find the bases and the generated subspace. If someone could explain it to me, thank you.
 
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The system of equations you show would be used to find the span of your three vectors. Instead of equations that start with a= , b=, and c=, put 0 in for all three of those variables. You should end up with a row of zeroes and two nonzero rows.

What did you end up with when you row-reduced your matrix?
 
So, I should have used the homogeneous system A . x = 0 ? Being A a matrix. Hmm...
I ended up with (after Gaussian elimination):

Code:
[ 1  4  7 | a      ]
[ 0 -3 -6 | b-2a   ]
[ 0  0  0 | c-a-2b ]
 
If I can backpedal a bit, your work is fine. For the system represented by your augmented matrix to be consistent, it must be that c - a - 2b = 0.

or
Code:
a = -2b + c
b =    b
c =          c

I added the 2nd and 3rd equations above so that I can get some vectors out of the equation c - a - 2b = 0. The equations I added are obviously true for all values of b and c, respectively.

Any vector [a b c]^T is a linear combination of [-2 1 0]^T and [1 0 1]^T. These come from setting b = 1, c = 0 and then b = 0, c = 1.

Different pairs of choices for b and c will give you different pairs of vectors for your basis.

Hope that helps.
 

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