Finding the basis of a subspace

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The original poster attempts to find a basis for the subspace of R^3 consisting of all vectors x such that x ⋅ (1,2,3) = 0. This involves exploring the relationships between the components of the vectors and their orthogonality to the given vector.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method of expressing the vector components in terms of parameters and the implications of orthogonality. There is also mention of checking the results through alternative methods, such as cross products.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting that the method appears correct while also raising points about potential confusion in notation. There is an ongoing exploration of how to clarify vector representation.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between the variable used for the vector and its components to avoid confusion. The discussion also reflects on the dimensionality of the subspace being a plane in R^3.

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Homework Statement


How do I find a basis for:
the subspace of R^3 consisting of all vectors x such that x ⋅ (1,2,3) = 0.

Homework Equations


I believe this is performed through setting x = x,y,z, setting each parameter sequentially equal to 1 while the others are set to o, putting into a matrix where a^i --> v(subscript i), and transforming into row reduced echelon form.

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe I have done this correctly, but please tell me if I have not.

x ⋅ (1,2,3) = 0.
(x,y,z) ⋅ (1,2,3) = 0.
x + 2y + 3z = o
x = -2y -3z
that is,
x = -2s - 3t
y = s
z = t

Giving: (-2s-3t,s,t)

Set s = 1, t = 0
(-2,1,0)
Set s = 0, t = 1
(-3,0,1)

-2 -3
1 0
0 1

ROW REDUCTION
yields:

1 0
0 1
0 0

Transforming v1 and v2 into the elementary columns. Thus,
{(-2,1,0),(-3,0,1)} form a basis for the subspace of R^3 consisting of all vectors x such that x ⋅ (1,2,3) = 0.
DimS = 2

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If it is of any assistance, the answer in the back of the textbook is:
{(-2,1,0),(-3,0,1)} with dimS = 2
 
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I apologize for the redundancy setting y = s and z = t. That was clearly not needed.
 
Your subspace is going to be a plane in r3. That plane will consist of all your vectors x, which are orthogonal to 1,2,3. Your method looks alright, if you doubt the answer, find a way to check it. *cough* cross some vectors *uncough*

Also, if this were any more complex, using x for a vector equal to <x,y,z> could be confusing. I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it.
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Your subspace is going to be a plane in r3. That plane will consist of all your vectors x, which are orthogonal to 1,2,3. Your method looks alright, if you doubt the answer, find a way to check it. *cough* cross some vectors *uncough*

Also, if this were any more complex, using x for a vector equal to <x,y,z> could be confusing. I wouldn't recommend making a habit of it.

Thank you for the reply!

Do you mean to say I would be better saying x = <x1,x2,x3>?
Perhaps I've misunderstood you completely.
 
Something along those lines, yea. or x = <e1,e2,e3>

Just setting x = <x,*,*> can be confusing, you know, since its just x on the left side, and it's just x in one of the components on the right side. However you want to differentiate between those is up to you; but I suggest you do, otherwise you'll get lost in your own work no doubt about it.
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Something along those lines, yea. or x = <e1,e2,e3>

Just setting x = <x,*,*> can be confusing, you know, since its just x on the left side, and it's just x in one of the components on the right side. However you want to differentiate between those is up to you; but I suggest you do, otherwise you'll get lost in your own work no doubt about it.

Thank you!
It's been a while since I've done this.
 
No problem, glad to help =]
 

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