How can I help a student achieve an A in my college physics course?

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The discussion centers around strategies for helping a student achieve an A in an algebra-based introductory physics course, particularly with limited time remaining in the semester. The conversation explores grading policies, fairness in treatment of students, and the implications of student performance on final grades.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the feasibility of the student achieving an A given the limited time and the need for perfect scores on remaining assessments.
  • Another participant advises against treating the student differently from others, emphasizing the importance of fairness in grading practices.
  • There is a suggestion to consult departmental guidelines regarding grading policies, as these may provide clarity on how to handle the situation.
  • A participant mentions the importance of considering overall class performance metrics, such as averages and medians, when discussing grades with students.
  • One participant notes that students often express desperation for high grades close to finals, suggesting that instructors should maintain a supportive but firm stance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of fairness in grading and the challenges of accommodating individual student requests late in the semester. However, there is disagreement regarding the likelihood of the student achieving an A and the appropriateness of offering additional opportunities for grade improvement.

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Limitations include the lack of specific departmental guidelines mentioned, the uncertainty about the student's overall performance throughout the course, and the potential impact of grading policies on student expectations.

Who May Find This Useful

Instructors in similar educational contexts, particularly those teaching introductory physics or other STEM courses, may find this discussion relevant for addressing student grade concerns and maintaining equitable grading practices.

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I teach the algebra based introductory physics course at a college. I have less than 10 students. I covered 8 chapters in 15 weeks (I was supposed to cover 9, but could not reach it). So, obviously it is hard for my students. One of my students tells me that she accepts/wants an A in this course and wants to know how she can achieve this goal. With only 2 weeks left, I really feel like I can not do much now. She has to score perfectly to get an A in the few remaining tasks and the finals, and that won't happen. Do you have any suggestions? She had a very low score on one of her earlier assignments and I could ask her to redo it (that won't be fare to others)? I could give an extra credit assignment, but it is kind of late to assign one now.

Do you have any suggestions? Thank you.

GAMMA
 
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Have you spoken to other members of your department?

In my experience, the subject of assigning grades is not openly discussed. Partly, I think, this is in consideration of the autonomy an instructor has when running their class. However, you should find out if there are any departmental guidelines.

That said, I must caution you not to treat any student differently than any other. for example, giving her a make-up assignment without making that option available to *every* student is a recipe for disaster.

When a student appears just prior to the final exam- a student that has not made use of office hours etc. during the course- I try to encourage them not to panic, to do their best, and leave it at that. Students will cry, beg, plead, and insist that their life will end if they do not get an 'A'. Ignore it, and make sure your office door is always open.
 
Andy,

Thank you so much for your reply. I will follow your advice when talking to this student tomorrow.

Gamma.
 
You say she can get the A if she aces the remaining stuff. I don't think she can expect better news.
 
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Also: I also like to look at my overall numbers for the entire course: What is the class average and median scores (in categories such as homework, tests, overall)? Are you giving any A's?

While looking at the class stats makes more sense for large enrollment classes, it's still good information to have and possibly present to a student looking for some reprieve at the end of a term... I try to remind them that exams CAN make a difference (and remind them of the weighting of the final) but that the course grading still reflects overall course performance throughout the term.
 

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