How Can I Normalize a Superlorentzian Function to 16-Bit?

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of a superlorentzian function for use in an algorithm that requires 16-bit numerical outputs. Participants explore various methods to achieve this normalization, addressing the challenges posed by the function's characteristics and the implications of its parameters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the superlorentzian function and its parameters, seeking guidance on how to normalize it for 16-bit output.
  • Another participant suggests using inequalities to establish the range of x values that would keep the function's output within the bounds of 0 to 65,535 for unsigned integers.
  • There is a discussion about the lack of a minimum value for the superlorentzian function, which approaches zero but never actually reaches it, complicating the normalization process.
  • Participants debate the correct formulation of inequalities and the necessity of adjusting for vertical translation (D) in the function.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether the new minimum and maximum values can be directly applied in the normalization formula, given the function's characteristics.
  • Concerns are raised about potential division by zero when D is zero, which affects the calculations for normalization.
  • There are technical corrections regarding the notation used in mathematical expressions, particularly concerning the use of exponents and inequality symbols.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for normalization, and multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the implications of the function's parameters and the normalization process.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific values of the parameters A, B, C, D, n, and x0, which are not fully determined in the discussion. The issue of D being zero presents a significant challenge in the normalization process, leading to potential mathematical complications.

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Hey there!
I want to normalise my function. It's a superlorentzian function and looks like this:

A / ( B+ [ ( (x-C)/x0 )^n ] + D

A/B is maximal value of the function
C is the horizontal transliteration of the function
x0 refers to the width of the function (multiply this value by 8 and you have its width)
n is the order of the function
D is the vertical transliteration

I want to normalise this function to it can be used for my algorithm that uses 16-bit numbers. But how can I do this? I tried using normal normalisation (A - aminimal / amax - amin) but that didn't work out for me. How can I normalise this function so it's output will use 16 bit numbers?
 

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Choisai said:
Hey there!
I want to normalise my function. It's a superlorentzian function and looks like this:

A / ( B+ [ ( (x-C)/x0 )^n ] + D

A/B is maximal value of the function
C is the horizontal transliteration of the function
x0 refers to the width of the function (multiply this value by 8 and you have its width)
n is the order of the function
D is the vertical transliteration

I want to normalise this function to it can be used for my algorithm that uses 16-bit numbers. But how can I do this? I tried using normal normalisation (A - aminimal / amax - amin) but that didn't work out for me. How can I normalise this function so it's output will use 16 bit numbers?
C is the horizontal translation of the function. Transliteration occurs when you change the letters from one language to those in another language. For example, the abbreviation CCCP (in Russian) becomes USSR on transliteration into an English abbreviation.You didn't say whether your 16-bit output values are signed or unsigned, so I arbitrarily chose unsigned. An unsigned 16-bit integer has a range of 0 through 65,535.

Here's your inequality:

$$0 ≤ \frac{A}{B + (\frac{x}{x_0})^n} + D ≤ 65,535$$
Add -D to all three members:
$$-D ≤ \frac{A}{B + (\frac{x}{x_0})^n} ≤ 65,535 - D$$
Invert the fractions, which changes the direction of the inequalities:
$$\frac{-1}{D} ≥ \frac{B + (\frac{x}{x_0})^n}{A} ≥ \frac{1}{65,535 - D} $$
Multiply all three members by A, and continue a step at a time until you get x all by itself in the middle. That will tell you the interval for your x values so that the output is no larger than 65,535.

If the output can be negative, change the first line to
-32,768 ≤ <your expression> ≤ 32,767

What you wrote is slightly different from the image you attached. What you wrote has x - C. It's a simple matter to change the above to include it.
 
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I included the C and isolated the x. But it isn't exactly in a formula form:

$$(\frac{-A}{D}-B)^(\frac{1}{n}){x_0}+C≤ x ≤ (\frac{A}{65,535-D})^(\frac{1}{n}){x_0}+C$$

How can I turn this into a formula? If I want to use it for my algorithm I need to be able to plug my x in and get a normalized function out. Or are these the values that I need to use as my 'New Minimum' and 'New Maximum'?

The problem with that however is that my function doesn't really have a minimum value. My superlorentzian function has a maximum of A/B and goes off nearing zero, but it doesn't actually become zero.
So this is the usual normalization formula:

$$x-OldMinimum\frac{NewMaximum - NewMinimum}{OldMaximum - OldMinimum}+NewMinimum$$

I know the new Maximum (65535) and the new minimum (0). I also know the old maximum (A/B) but the new minimum can only be found using a limit. It goes off to 0, but never becomes zero. Is this is a problem?

PS: I'm not that handy with Latex so I couldn't get the 1/n power to work
 
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Choisai said:
PS: I'm not that handy with Latex so I couldn't get the 1/n power to work
You need some curly braces: X^{\frac{1}{n}}X^{\frac{1}{n}}
 
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Choisai said:
I included the C and isolated the x. But it isn't exactly in a formula form:

$$(\frac{-A}{D}-B)^(\frac{1}{n}){x_0}+C≤ x ≤ (\frac{A}{65,535-D})^(\frac{1}{n}){x_0}+C$$
You have your inequality symbols going the wrong direction. Here's the corrected inequality (also with the exponents fixed).

Presumably the parameters of your function - A, B, C, D, n, and x0 are known. If you substitute for them, it will give you the range of x values for which f(x) is between 0 and 65, 535.
$$(\frac{-A}{D}-B)^{\frac{1}{n}}{x_0}+C ≥ x ≥ (\frac{A}{65,535 - D})^{\frac{1}{n}}{x_0}+C$$

Choisai said:
How can I turn this into a formula? If I want to use it for my algorithm I need to be able to plug my x in and get a normalized function out. Or are these the values that I need to use as my 'New Minimum' and 'New Maximum'?

The problem with that however is that my function doesn't really have a minimum value. My superlorentzian function has a maximum of A/B and goes off nearing zero, but it doesn't actually become zero.
So this is the usual normalization formula:

$$x-OldMinimum\frac{NewMaximum - NewMinimum}{OldMaximum - OldMinimum}+NewMinimum$$

I know the new Maximum (65535) and the new minimum (0). I also know the old maximum (A/B) but the new minimum can only be found using a limit. It goes off to 0, but never becomes zero. Is this is a problem?

PS: I'm not that handy with Latex so I couldn't get the 1/n power to work
 
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Mark44 said:
You have your inequality symbols going the wrong direction. Here's the corrected inequality (also with the exponents fixed).

Presumably the parameters of your function - A, B, C, D, n, and x0 are known. If you substitute for them, it will give you the range of x values for which f(x) is between 0 and 65, 535.
$$(\frac{-A}{D}-B)^{\frac{1}{n}}{x_0}+C ≥ x ≥ (\frac{A}{65,535 - D})^{\frac{1}{n}}{x_0}+C$$
Thank you for your reply. The constants are indeed known. I have to find the actual values though, but for the sake of my algorithm I presume these to be known (they are actually laser beam parameters, so that is something I have yet to find out). But are these the minimum and respective maximum that I have to plug in the formula I mentioned?
You can find more about it on this Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(image_processing )

Are the 'new maximum' and 'new minimum' constants I can fill in in that formula? Or is it a bit more complicated?

EDIT: I am working this out in Labview and because it's a function, I guess I have to use a rounding function too? Or is that not neccesary?
By the way, I tried using it but alas it fails. In most cases the vertical translation of a Lorentzian, the D in the Lorentzian formula, is zero. This means that when finding the minimum you have to divide by zero, so that part is not working out.
 
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Choisai said:
Thank you for your reply. The constants are indeed known. I have to find the actual values though, but for the sake of my algorithm I presume these to be known (they are actually laser beam parameters, so that is something I have yet to find out). But are these the minimum and respective maximum that I have to plug in the formula I mentioned?
You can find more about it on this Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(image_processing )
The link you provided is broken, because you omitted the final parenthesis. Here's the link again, corrected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(image_processing)

Choisai said:
Are the 'new maximum' and 'new minimum' constants I can fill in in that formula? Or is it a bit more complicated?
At the moment I don't know. I won't have a chance to look at the wiki article until later today.
Choisai said:
EDIT: I am working this out in Labview and because it's a function, I guess I have to use a rounding function too? Or is that not neccesary?
By the way, I tried using it but alas it fails. In most cases the vertical translation of a Lorentzian, the D in the Lorentzian formula, is zero. This means that when finding the minimum you have to divide by zero, so that part is not working out.
The work that I did started with the formula you provided, which was this:

A / ( B+ [ ( (x-C)/x0 )^n ] + D

Since, as you say, the vertical translation turns out to be zero, retrace my steps using this formula:
A / ( B+ [ ( (x-C)/x0 )^n ]
 
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