How can I prove properties of complex numbers in my homework?

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the conjugate nature of complex numbers raised to a power, the behavior of roots of unity, and their reciprocals. The original poster presents multiple statements requiring proof, including the conjugate relationship of complex numbers and properties of the set of nth roots of unity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the proof of the conjugate relationship by manipulating the expressions for complex numbers raised to a power. Questions arise about the necessity of certain steps in the proof process. For the roots of unity, some participants suggest considering the implications of the properties of complex numbers without extensive manipulation, while others express a desire to adhere to specific forms in their proofs.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem statements, offering suggestions and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a mix of approaches being explored, with some participants advocating for simpler methods while others seek to adhere to specific formulations. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express constraints regarding the form of proof they are required to use, indicating a preference for proofs that align with the original poster's stated methods. There are also indications of confusion and circular reasoning in the discussion, particularly regarding the properties of products and quotients of roots of unity.

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Homework Statement



Hello! :smile:

a)Prove that [tex](a+bi)^n[/tex] and [tex](a-bi)^n[/tex], n [tex]\in \mathbb{N}[/tex] are conjugate complex numbers;

b)Prove that quotient of any two numbers from the set of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex] is again number from the set of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex]

c)Prove that reciproca value of any number from the set of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex], is again number from the set [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]z=r(cos\alpha+isin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex]\bar{z}=r(cos\alpha-isin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex]w_k=\sqrt[n]{r}(cos\frac{\alpha + 2k\pi}{n}+isin{\alpha + 2k\pi}{n}) ; k=0,1,2,...,n-1[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



a) [tex](a+bi)=r(cos\alpha+isin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a+bi)^n=r^n(cosn\alpha+isinn\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a-bi)=r(cos\alpha-sin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a-bi)^n=r^n(cosn\alpha-sinn\alpha)[/tex]

Is this enough to prove that they are conjugate complex numbers?

b)[tex]E_k=\sqrt[n]{1}=cos\frac{2k\pi}{n}+isin{2k\pi}{n} , k=0,1,2,3,...,n-1[/tex]

Should I make like this?

[tex]E_n_-_1=\sqrt[n]{1}=cos\frac{2(n-1)\pi}{n}+isin\frac{2(n-1)\pi}{n}[/tex]

What should I do next?

c)If I know how to prove b) I will prove c)

In this case just [tex](\sqrt[n]{1})^-^1=\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex], right?
 
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Theofilius said:
a) [tex](a+bi)=r(cos\alpha+isin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a+bi)^n=r^n(cosn\alpha+isinn\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a-bi)=r(cos\alpha-sin\alpha)[/tex]

[tex](a-bi)^n=r^n(cosn\alpha-sinn\alpha)[/tex]

Is this enough to prove that they are conjugate complex numbers?
Multiply eqns 2 and 4 and you're done.

For b,c you don't have to resort to any fanciful complex number manipulation. Suppose a complex number [tex]w = \sqrt[n]{1}[/tex] That implies [tex]w^n = 1[/tex] Similarly consider a different nth complex root of unity, say z. z^n = 1. Quotient = w/z. How can we tell if w/z is also an nth root of unity?

c)

Again suppose [tex]w = \sqrt[n]{1}[/tex]. It's reciprocal is [tex]\frac{1}{w}[/tex]. What is [tex]\left (\frac{1}{w}\right)^n[/tex]
 
But I need to prove like I wrote at b)

First, let me apologise, I have some typo error in b), it should look like:

[tex]E_k=\sqrt[n]{1}=cos\frac{2k\pi}{n}+isin\frac{2k\pi}{n} , k=0,1,2,3,...,n-1[/tex]

In a) why I need to multiply them ?
 
Well, okay I misread your answer for a). It's fine.

For b,c, what kind of proof are you looking for? Is there something unacceptable about the suggestion I gave?
 
I think your way of thinking is good, but probably I should get two general solutions from the set of solutions of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex] and prove...
 
For b), switching to exponential form simplifies a lot.
 
I need to prove with complex numbers like the [tex]E_k[/tex] formula above. Please help!
 
Any help?
 
Suppose a and b are both "from the set [itex]^n\sqrt{1}[/tex]. What is (ab)<sup>n</sup>?[/itex]
 
  • #10
Maybe again [tex](ab)^n[/tex] is from the set of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex]. I am not sure.
 
  • #11
Theofilius said:
Maybe again [tex](ab)^n[/tex] is from the set of [tex]\sqrt[n]{1}[/tex]. I am not sure.

Hint: [itex](ab)^n[/itex] = ababab … ababab = … ? :smile:
 
  • #12
[tex]a^nb^n[/tex] ? :smile:
 
  • #13
Theofilius said:
[tex]a^nb^n[/tex] ? :smile:

Yes … but … why the question-mark?

Theofilius , you keep answering questions with a question … even when, as in this case, it's actually the complete answer.

ok … and [tex]a^nb^n[/tex] = … ?

:smile: … and don't answer with a question … ! :smile:
 
  • #14
[tex]a^nb^n=[/tex]? I honesly don't know.. :smile: I don't even know what are you giving me that question for?
 
  • #15
Theofilius said:
[tex]a^nb^n=[/tex]? I honesly don't know.. :smile: I don't even know what are you giving me that question for?

Because of:
HallsofIvy said:
Suppose a and b are both "from the set [itex]^n\sqrt{1}[/tex]. What is (ab)<sup>n</sup>?[/itex]
[itex][/itex]
 
  • #16
[tex](ab)^n[/tex] is complex or real number. :smile:
 
  • #17
I don't know, we are just going in circle.
 
  • #18
HallsofIvy said:
Suppose a and b are both "from the set [itex]^n\sqrt{1}[/itex]

So [itex]a^n\,=\,b^n\,=\,1[/itex]
 
  • #19
Is that the proof?
 
  • #20
Physicsissuef said:
Is that the proof?

Well, it needs to be put together into one continuous piece, and the actual question was about a/b rather than ab, but apart from that … yes! :smile:
 

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