How can I raise water to the first floor in a multi-story building?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of raising water to the first floor of a multi-story building using a tap and a rubber pipe. Participants explore the implications of water pressure, tank height, and the role of pumps in this scenario.

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  • One participant questions whether water will reach the first floor if a rubber pipe is connected to a tap on the ground floor and directed upwards.
  • Another participant asserts that if the water tank is higher than the first floor, water will flow out at that level; otherwise, it will not.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that opening the tap reduces the pressure created by the water head in the tank, potentially affecting water flow.
  • One participant argues that the pressure drop due to an open tap is related to flow velocity and can be analyzed using Bernoulli's equation, under certain assumptions about flow conditions.
  • A participant clarifies that the water is pumped from the tank and questions whether water would still reach the first floor without the pump, suggesting that the connection from the tap to the water line is a joint that could affect flow.
  • Another participant expresses that if the hose is the only connection, it should be possible to raise the end to the same level as the water in the tank, but notes that the presence of a joint may complicate this assumption.

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Participants express differing views on whether water can reach the first floor under the given conditions, with some asserting it is possible if the tank is high enough, while others raise concerns about pressure and flow dynamics. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions, such as the need for the pipe diameter to match the tap for proper flow and the implications of using a pump, but these assumptions are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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Can anyone please clarify me a questions that I am unable to find an answer or understand in broader perspective:

We have seen tap water coming out with a force via a tank placed up in a multi storied apartment. Assume that I need to connect a rubber pipe in the tap at ground floor and put the pipe in upwards directions at a height of first floor.

Will the water come in the pipe at the first floor level - please note that water is continuously coming out from the tap - if not what can be done to make the water come till first floor?

Thanks in advance.
 
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If the tank is higher than the first floor then water will come out at first floor level. If the tank is lower than the first floor it won't.
 

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Perhaps i missunderstand the question?.. If this is the situation (see drawing) then no water comes out when the tap is open. Thats because the tap releases/reduces the pressure created by the head of water in the tank.
 

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CWatters said:
Perhaps i missunderstand the question?.. If this is the situation (see drawing) then no water comes out when the tap is open. Thats because the tap releases/reduces the pressure created by the head of water in the tank.
Tap won't reduce pressure to zero. If it did, two people wouldn't be able to use water from same water tower at the same time, unless at exactly the same elevation. This is clearly false.

This does, however, imply limitations. The pressure drop due to open tap will be related to the flow velocity in the pipes. In fact, you can use Bernoulli Eqn. to gauge effect of the open tap. Knowing diameter of the pipes and flow rate, decrease in maximum elevation could be evaluated. Of course, that's only going to be valid under assumption of inviscid flow and incompressible fluid.
 
Thanks for your reply.

Please find the picture attached as per expected scenario in my response. One correction the tap to water line connection from the tank is actually like a joint, as such the water line from tank would stretch further on.

The water from the tank is actually pumped through a motor and water oozes out from tap as shown in the figure. The motor is missing in my diagram just for the fact that even if in case motor is not there I believe water should come to level of first floor. Please confirm.

The diameter of the pipe obviously has to be same of tap for its perfect fittings / bindings.
 

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See my first diagram. If the hose is the only thing connected it should be possible to raise the end to the same level as the water in the tank.

The pump might complicate things but I would hope not. Most pumps will provide at least 1 bar pressure which is enough to go up about 10m.
 
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See my first diagram. If the hose is the only thing connected it should be possible to raise the end to the same level as the water in the tank.
That was my first thought, looking at the picture, but he also said this.
One correction the tap to water line connection from the tank is actually like a joint, as such the water line from tank would stretch further on.
Which makes me think water is free to flow elsewhere. So it still goes to your option with the tap and the split. So the level is still going to be reduced and he's providing no information to even guess by how much.
 

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