How can I simplify the expression x^n-y^n using the factorization method?

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the expression x^n - y^n, specifically proving the identity x^n - y^n = (x - y)(x^{n-1} + x^{n-2}y + ... + xy^{n-2} + y^{n-1}). The subject area is algebra, focusing on polynomial identities and factorization methods.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods of approaching the proof, including expanding the right-hand side (RHS) and factoring terms from the left-hand side (LHS). Some express confusion about the completeness of their expansions and the necessity of certain terms. Others suggest grouping terms differently to facilitate factoring.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and alternative methods. Some express uncertainty about their approaches, while others affirm that expanding the RHS is a valid strategy. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but several productive suggestions have been made.

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Participants note the importance of correctly accounting for all terms in the expansion and the challenge posed by certain terms that resist factoring. The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment that requires a specific proof format.

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Homework Statement



Prove x^n-y^n= (x-y)(x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}y+ \cdots + xy^{n-2}+y^{n-1}).



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x^n-y^n = \\<br /> =x^n -y^n + x^{n-1}y - x^{n-1}y + x^{n-2}y^2 - x^{n-2}y^2 + y^{n-1}x - y^{n-1}x + y^{n-2}x^2 - y^{n-2}x^2<br /> Adding inverses

<br /> = x^n - x^{n-1}y -y^n + y^{n-1}x + x^{n-1}y - x^{n-2}y^2 - y^{n-1}x + y^{n-2}x^2 + (x^{n-2}y^2 - y^{n-2}x^2)
Rearranging inverse in order to be factored.


I cannot get rid of the last term in parentheses. I realize that all the combined terms in the last step can be factored with something and left with (x-y) which is a step closer to the proof. The last term is the bane of this problem. Any insight please?

Sorry if the algebra looks obfuscating; it gives me headaches.
 
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Why such a haphazard expansion?

You need to account for all of the terms. In particular, you appear to be forgetting that the ellipsis encompasses a lot of terms (everything from xn-3y2 to x2yn-3).
 
You do not need to get rid of the last term in parentheses. You are on the right way, just you need to factor the negative terms (with minus before them), and the positive terms (with plus before them). Group the negative and positive terms in separate brackets, and factor y for the negative ones, and x for the positive ones.

Regards.
 
Won't it be easier to multiply and cancel the RHS?
 
"In particular, you appear to be forgetting that the ellipsis encompasses a lot of terms (everything from xn-3y2 to x2yn-3). "

Yeah I forgot to include them. "You are on the right way, just you need to factor the negative terms (with minus before them), and the positive terms (with plus before them). Group the negative and positive terms in separate brackets, and factor y for the negative ones, and x for the positive ones."

In the last step, I arranged them to be factored but not by the method you proposed. I do not see how your method would just by factoring y and x alone. Unless you mean making a lot of individual brackets--what I originally intended, I do not see that would work otherwise.

This is what i meant to do :

= (x^n - x^{n-1}y)+( -y^n + y^{n-1}x )+ (x^{n-1}y - x^{n-2}y^2) + ( - y^{n-1}x + y^{n-2}x^2) + (x^{n-2}y^2 - y^{n-2}x^2)<br />
Then I would factor the largest common factor thus leaving (x-y) or (y-x) in each case. The problem arises in the last parentheses because I cannot factor anything from there.

"Won't it be easier to multiply and cancel the RHS?"

What is RHS?
 
razored said:
What is RHS?

RHS = Right Hand Side
 
Borek said:
Won't it be easier to multiply and cancel the RHS?

That defeats the entire purpose of the problem, if I understand you correctly.
 
No, it's a valid way to prove it.
 
I am trying to get to that result. I think multiplying the RHS and cancelling with the terms on the LHS just tests if they are equal.
 
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You don't cancel anything with the LHS. Just expandthe RHS, and show that it is equal to the LHS.
 
  • #11
dx said:
You don't cancel anything with the LHS. Just expandthe RHS, and show that it is equal to the LHS.

But that is not what I am supposed to do; I am supposed to work it out and arrive at that result that they set equal to. My(and yours) efforts are supposed to = (x-y)(x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}y+ \cdots + xy^{n-2}+y^{n-1}).
 
  • #12
You are supposed to prove that

x^n-y^n= (x-y)(x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}y+ \cdots + xy^{n-2}+y^{n-1})

is an identity, correct?

If so, then expanding the RHS and showing that it is equal to the LHS is a valid way to do that.
 
  • #13
dx said:
You are supposed to prove that

x^n-y^n= (x-y)(x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}y+ \cdots + xy^{n-2}+y^{n-1})

is an identity, correct?

If so, then expanding the RHS and showing that it is equal to the LHS is a valid way to do that.

Any alternatives beside this?
 
  • #14
Any way of showing that LHS equals RHS will do. Your original approach was correct as well - I just think dealing with RHS is easier.
 
  • #15
Razored, it's very close to 100% certain that the person who gave you this problem to solve intended you to do it the way Borek and dx are suggesting. You do know that A=B if and only if B=A, right? You don't have to start with the thing that's on the left. You can also start with the thing that's on the right and show that it's equal to what's on the left.
 
  • #16
Why do you want an alternative? The whole point of this exercise is to learn how to multiply polynomials.

There are n terms in xn-1y+xn-2y2+...+x2yn-2+xyn-1. The product
(x-y)(xn-1y+xn-2y2+...+x2yn-2+xyn-1) thus has 2n terms. You need to show that all but two of them cancel.
 
  • #17
Yeah, I should have multiplied out the RHS. I will leave it at that. I guess the author did intend it as a practice of multiplying polys.

Thanks.
 

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