How can I solve for the forces in a three bar truss with a weight of 2 T?

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The discussion revolves around solving for the forces in a three bar truss supporting a weight of 2 T. The truss is described as a 3-4-5 triangle, which introduces specific trigonometric relationships for resolving forces.

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  • Participants discuss resolving forces vertically and horizontally to form equations. There is an attempt to express these equations in a specific standard form. Questions arise regarding the constants in the equations and how to manipulate them to isolate variables.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting methods like back-substitution and discussing the use of matrices for solving systems of equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the equations in the desired format, with some participants seeking clarification on the constants involved.

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Participants express uncertainty about the equations and their forms, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying concepts necessary for solving the problem. There is mention of a diagram that may aid in visualizing the problem, but it has not been fully integrated into the discussion yet.

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A weight of 2 T is supported by a three bar truss. We want to find the forces in the three bars.


(This truss is a 3-4-5 triangle so that sin and cos are either 0.6 or 0.8. See below

Resolving vertically at the top we find 0.8F1 + 0.6 F2 = 2 This is Equation 1

Resolving horizontally at the top we find 0.6F1 = 0.8F2 This is equation 2

Resolving horizontally at the bottom left we find 0.6F1 = F3

a) Write each of the equations in th eform p.F1 + r.F2 + r.F3 = k

b) Solve these questions simultaneously.

I have no idea how to do this.
I'll try and put up a picture of the question as soon as possible.
Thanks.
 
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Solve the last equation for F1 in terms of F3 and substitute it into the other equations. Now you have two equations in two unknowns. Solve one of them for F2 in terms of F3 and substitute that into the last equation. Now you have one equation in one unknown. Et voila.
 
Dick speaks the truth. It is quite common to encounter a system like this that can be solved by 'back-substitution'. Since you've probably not learned about them yet, matrices are how you would normally handle a system of equations such as this one.
 
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Here is the diagram.
I really don't understand how to solve the equations to find f1, f2 and f3.
Also how would i write the equations in the form p.F1 +q.F2+r.F3=k
Where do the p, q, r, and k that are constants come from ?

Thanks
 
Stacyg said:
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Here is the diagram.
I really don't understand how to solve the equations to find f1, f2 and f3.
Also how would i write the equations in the form p.F1 +q.F2+r.F3=k
Where do the p, q, r, and k that are constants come from ?

Thanks

Your first equation was 0.8F1 + 0.6 F2 = 2. That's p=0.8, q=0.6, r=0 and k=2. Didn't you read my explanation of how to solve them??
 
Yeah sorry I re-read your reply and worked it out thanks for your help.
 

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