How can I solve for the Thevenin resistance in this circuit?

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The discussion revolves around determining the Thevenin resistance in a circuit involving a 9V source and various resistors. Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including the use of test sources and circuit analysis techniques.

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  • Participants discuss methods such as removing the voltage source and introducing a test source, as well as using KVL and KCL equations. Questions are raised about the impact of varying load resistance on power and the calculus techniques that could be applied to maximize power.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to find the Thevenin resistance, with some participants offering guidance on potential methods while others express uncertainty about how to proceed. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I'm doing some practice problems, and I can't seem to figure out where to even begin with this one.

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I've tried solving for R_{T} (Thevenin resistance) by removing the 9V source and adding a 1V test source across the load, and I've also tried solving for R{_T} by leaving the 9V source in the circuit.

If someone could walk me through the steps, I would greatly appreciate it!
 
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Novark said:
I'm doing some practice problems, and I can't seem to figure out where to even begin with this one.

4028601762_c19c81854b_o.jpg


I've tried solving for R_{T} (Thevenin resistance) by removing the 9V source and adding a 1V test source across the load, and I've also tried solving for R{_T} by leaving the 9V source in the circuit.

If someone could walk me through the steps, I would greatly appreciate it!

Start with either KVL or KCL equations. What is the power in RL? How does varying the value of RL affect the power equation? What's the power for a small value of RL like 1 Ohm? What about 1k Ohm?

What technique in calculus is used to maximize something?
 
Novark said:
I've tried solving for R_{T} (Thevenin resistance) by removing the 9V source and adding a 1V test source across the load, and I've also tried solving for R{_T} by leaving the 9V source in the circuit.

You can find the thevenin resistance by finding the open circuit voltage and the short circuit current.
The tevenin resistance is (open circuit voltage)/(short circuit current)

Finding these can IMO most easily be done by finding an equation for the potential of the point between the 3 resistances with KCL.
 
To find Rth :

short out 9v voltage supply and open RL resistor
the independent 3Vx source remains.
Introduce voltage source Vth from RL terminal
and Isc flowing into the 4ohm resistor from Vth

using KVL with mesh currents both are clockwise,
The below equation is derived :

<< complete solution deleted by berkeman >>
 
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hadiffina said:
To find Rth :

short out 9v voltage supply and open RL resistor
the independent 3Vx source remains.
Introduce voltage source Vth from RL terminal
and Isc flowing into the 4ohm resistor from Vth

using KVL with mesh currents both are clockwise,
The below equation is derived :

<< complete solution deleted by berkeman >>

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