How can I solve the partial differentiation equation provided?

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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation (PDE) involving the function U(x,y). Participants are exploring the separation of variables method and the implications of their attempts on the function g(y).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to separate variables by keeping y fixed and integrating to find U(x,y) in terms of g(y). They express confusion about the lecturer's solution for g(y) and seek clarification on the integration step. Other participants suggest alternative forms for g(y) and question the correctness of the original approach, proposing different methods to solve the resulting equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing alternative perspectives on the solution process. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the steps taken, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the PDE. The original poster has referenced a specific solution from a lecturer, which has prompted further questioning and exploration of assumptions related to the problem.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I kept y fixed, and so I ended up with the following equation:

Integ[dU/U] = Integ[x]

And we end up with: U(x,y) = e^x * g(y)

To solve g(y), we sub the solution into the 2nd PDE provided to give:

d/dy[e^x * g(y)] = y[e^x * g(y)]

Dividing through by e^x: d/dy [g(y)] = y*g(y)

I was stuck at this point, so took a peek at the answers to find the lecturer wrote:
=> ln[g(y)] = 1/2*y^2 + c

How did he come to that? I can't solve this equation, could someone please help me out?

Thank you very much!
 
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I have also tried working the other way round but still, no joy.

Any help?
 
I don't think that is quite the right answer,

Cause couldn't for the first step anything like g(y)e^x + h(y) work?

So pluging that into the second equation you get g'(y)e^x+h'(y) = y(g(y)e^x+0)
so h'(y)= c, and g'(y)=yg(y), you can solve from there.
 
Lavace said:

Homework Statement


http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3853/physicse.jpg

The Attempt at a Solution


I kept y fixed, and so I ended up with the following equation:

Integ[dU/U] = Integ[x]

And we end up with: U(x,y) = e^x * g(y)

To solve g(y), we sub the solution into the 2nd PDE provided to give:

d/dy[e^x * g(y)] = y[e^x * g(y)]

Dividing through by e^x: d/dy [g(y)] = y*g(y)
This is a separable equation.
dg/g= ydy

Integrate both sides.

I was stuck at this point, so took a peek at the answers to find the lecturer wrote:
=> ln[g(y)] = 1/2*y^2 + c

How did he come to that? I can't solve this equation, could someone please help me out?

Thank you very much!
 
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n1person said:
I don't think that is quite the right answer,

Cause couldn't for the first step anything like g(y)e^x + h(y) work?
No, it wouldn't. The derivative of that, with respect to x, is g(y)e^x, NOT U(x,y)= g(y)e^x+ h(y). What Lavace did was correct.

So pluging that into the second equation you get g'(y)e^x+h'(y) = y(g(y)e^x+0)
so h'(y)= c, and g'(y)=yg(y), you can solve from there.
 

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