How can I solve this tricky problem involving work and kinetic energy?

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The problem involves a worker pushing a 27 kg block along a level floor at constant speed, with a focus on calculating the work done by the worker's force and the increase in thermal energy of the block-floor system. The context includes concepts of work, kinetic energy, friction, and forces acting on the block.

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  • Participants discuss various equations related to friction and forces, questioning the correctness of their setups. There are attempts to calculate the normal force and work done, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results and the relationships between the forces involved.

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Some participants have made progress in calculating the normal force and work done, while others are still exploring how to approach the second part of the problem. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correctness of the equations used and the implications of the energy balance in the system.

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this proplem is very tricky and i was wondering if anyone could help me.

A worker pushed a 27 kg block 10.4 m along a level floor at constant speed with a force directed 25° below the horizontal.
(a) If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.20, how much work was done by the worker's force?
?J
(b) What was the increase in thermal energy of the block-floor system? ?J

I decided to try using two equations. f=mewN/cos25 AND F=MG-n/SIN 25 . I equated them to fine part a but that answer did not work. any help
 
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kappcity06 said:
this proplem is very tricky and i was wondering if anyone could help me.

A worker pushed a 27 kg block 10.4 m along a level floor at constant speed with a force directed 25° below the horizontal.
(a) If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.20, how much work was done by the worker's force?
?J
(b) What was the increase in thermal energy of the block-floor system? ?J

I decided to try using two equations. f=mewN/cos25 AND F=MG-n/SIN 25 . I equated them to fine part a but that answer did not work. any help



What is the energy balance in this problem ?
 
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kappcity06 said:
I decided to try using two equations. f=mewN/cos25 AND F=MG-n/SIN 25 .
Is "f" meant to be the friction? If so, that first equation is incorrect.
Is "F" meant to be the worker's force? If so, that second equation has an incorrect sign.
 
ok i got two equations sumation of F_x=mgcos30-Force of kentic friction and f=m*mew*n cos 30.
 
kappcity06 said:
...and f=m*mew*n cos 30.
Kinetic friction is simply:
[tex]f = \mu N[/tex]
 
w=fdcos(theata) right
 
anyone else know something that can be done with this problem
 
It's certainly true that the work done by the force F is:
[tex]W = Fd \cos\theta[/tex]
 
anyone know something that I should do.
 
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Why don't you solve for [itex]F[/itex] or [itex]F\cos\theta[/itex] so you can calculate the work done? Hint: The block is moving at a constant speed.
 
  • #11
i have already found the normal force
 
  • #12
i used two equations F=u(k)N/cos(25) and F=(mg-N)/sin25

I solved them to get a normal force of 242.028.

I then subsitied the first equation F=u(k)N/cos(25) in for the F in
w=fdcos25. I found 503 and that was wrong. I have no idea what i did wrong.
 
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kappcity06 said:
i used two equations F=u(k)N/cos(25)
This one looks OK.
and F=(mg-N)/sin25
This one does not.
 
  • #14
what should i change. should the N be +
 
  • #15
Yes. But you should know why it's wrong and needs to be changed.
 
  • #16
so it should me (mg+n)/sin25 because the normal force pushes off the ground
 
  • #17
ok i got part a correct but i do not kow how to do part b. for a i got 603.8
 
  • #18
What happens to the work done by the worker? Where does the energy go?
 
  • #19
it turns into heat
 
  • #20
So what's the answer to part b?
 
  • #21
mg=603.8+E(of friction)
 
  • #22
i'm still not sure how to approach part b. can anyone help
 
  • #23
kappcity06 said:
i'm still not sure how to approach part b. can anyone help
HINT: Work done be frictional force is equal the the thermal energy supplied to the system.
 

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