How can I use the given linear transformation to determine f(x,y)?

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The problem involves a linear transformation f from R² to R³, with specific outputs given for the basis vectors f(1,0) and f(0,1). The task is to determine the transformation f(x,y) for any vector (x,y) in R².

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the properties of linear transformations and how to apply them to express (x,y) as a linear combination of known vectors. There is uncertainty about the practical application of the linear transformation theorem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested using the known outputs of f(1,0) and f(0,1) to express f(x,y) in terms of these basis vectors. There is ongoing exploration of how to represent (x,y) as a linear combination and apply the transformation accordingly.

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Participants are considering the implications of the linear transformation properties and how they relate to the specific values provided for the basis vectors. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of the transformation without explicit consensus on the next steps.

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Homework Statement



Say if f is a linear transformation from R2 to R3 with f(1,0) = (1,2,3) and f(0,1) = (0,-1,2).
Determine f(x,y).


The Attempt at a Solution




I understand the theorem on linear transformation and bases but unsure as to how I should apply it in practice. Should I be performing the linear transformation test? But the question has already specified that f is a linear transformation.

Edit: {u1,u2,u3...un} is a basis for Rn and {t1,t2,t3...tn} is a basis for Rm
then there is a unique linear transformation such that f maps (u1) to t1: f(u1) = t1

This can be expressed as f(u1) = t1, f(u2) = t2, f(u3) = t3...f(un) = tn

f:R2 →R3

f(e1) = (1,2,3)
∴f(1,0) = (1,2,3)
∴f(1) = 1, f(0) = 2

f(e2) = (0,-1,2)
∴f(0,1) = (0,-1,2)
∴f(0) = 0, f(1) = -1
 
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A linear transformation, f, has the property that f(\alpha u+ \beta v)= \alpha fu+ \beta fv where \alpha and \beta are scalars and u and v are vectors.

You know f(0,1) and f(1, 0) so given any (x, y), apply f to x(1, 0)+ y(0, 1).
 
negation said:

Homework Statement



Say if f is a linear transformation from R2 to R3 with f(1,0) = (1,2,3) and f(0,1) = (0,-1,2).
Determine f(x,y).


The Attempt at a Solution




I understand the theorem on linear transformation and bases but unsure as to how I should apply it in practice. Should I be performing the linear transformation test? But the question has already specified that f is a linear transformation.

Can you write (x,y) \in \mathbb{R}^2 as a linear combination of vectors for which you are given the value of f?
 
HallsofIvy said:
A linear transformation, f, has the property that f(\alpha u+ \beta v)= \alpha fu+ \beta fv where \alpha and \beta are scalars and u and v are vectors.

You know f(0,1) and f(1, 0) so given any (x, y), apply f to x(1, 0)+ y(0, 1).

Hi halls, I've added some content to the OP.
 
HallsofIvy said:
A linear transformation, f, has the property that f(\alpha u+ \beta v)= \alpha fu+ \beta fv where \alpha and \beta are scalars and u and v are vectors.

You know f(0,1) and f(1, 0) so given any (x, y), apply f to x(1, 0)+ y(0, 1).

pasmith said:
Can you write (x,y) \in \mathbb{R}^2 as a linear combination of vectors for which you are given the value of f?
Suppose u = (e1) and v = (e2)
f(u) = (1,2,3) and f(v) = 0,-1,2)

f(λ1u + λ2v) = λ1f(u) + λ2f(v)
= λ1 f(1,0) + λ2 f(0,1)
∴λ1(1,2,3) + λ2 (0,-1,2) = λ1(1,2,3) + λ2(0,-1,2)

and if I am given λ1 and λ2 I can find a vector as a linear combination of
λ1(1,2,3) + λ2(0,-1,2).
 

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