How Can Impulse-Momentum Theorem Be Applied to Springs?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the impulse-momentum theorem to a mass-spring system on a frictionless surface. Participants explore how to derive the maximum velocity of the mass when compressed by a spring.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to apply the impulse-momentum theorem, questioning the role of time in the equation and the implications of maximum velocity. They discuss the relationship between acceleration, force, and displacement in the context of simple harmonic motion.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between acceleration and maximum velocity, while others are verifying their reasoning and exploring different approaches to the problem. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas regarding the mathematical expressions involved.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the definitions of variables and the assumptions inherent in the ideal spring and frictionless surface setup.

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1. A mass M is connected to a wall by an ideal spring. The mass is on a frictionless surface. The mass is pushed toward the wall, compressing the spring by a distance X. Use the impulse-momentum theorem to demonstrate that the mass will reach a maximum velocity of X * (K / M)^1/2.

2. J = delta P, P = MV

3. J = delta P
Fn * t = MV - 0
-kx * t = MV What is t supposed to be? How can I finish this problem?
 
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Thomas Brown said:
1. A mass M is connected to a wall by an ideal spring. The mass is on a frictionless surface. The mass is pushed toward the wall, compressing the spring by a distance X. Use the impulse-momentum theorem to demonstrate that the mass will reach a maximum velocity of X * (K / M)^1/2.

2. J = delta P, P = MV

3. J = delta P
Fn * t = MV - 0
-kx * t = MV What is t supposed to be? How can I finish this problem?
What is ##\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}## and what would the question wanting the maximum imply?
 
Student100 said:
What is ##\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}## and what would the question wanting the maximum imply?
I see that delta V / delta T would be the acceleration and that the velocity would be greatest when acceleration is zero (maximum) but if I divide both sides by delta T I end up with:
-kx = m dV/dT
-kx = ma
Fn = ma
And I'm not really sure what I could do next...
 
Thomas Brown said:
I see that delta V / delta T would be the acceleration and that the velocity would be greatest when acceleration is zero (maximum) but if I divide both sides by delta T I end up with:
-kx = m dV/dT
-kx = ma
Fn = ma
And I'm not really sure what I could do next...

So you have ##a=\frac{-kx}{m}## or ##a={w^2}{x}##, is this looking familiar?
 
I think I got it but can you please verify? I know that a = w^2 x is the acceleration in SHM, so I integrated the A(t) formula to get V(t) = xw * sin(wt) and velocity is greatest when sin(wt) = 1 so the maximum velocity is xw, or v = x * (k / m)^1/2.
 
Thomas Brown said:
I think I got it but can you please verify? I know that a = w^2 x is the acceleration in SHM, so I integrated the A(t) formula to get V(t) = xw * sin(wt) and velocity is greatest when sin(wt) = 1 so the maximum velocity is xw, or v = x * (k / m)^1/2.

Yes, ##v(t)=- \omega xsin(\omega t)## when you take the phase constant to be zero. So what you said originally was true, the maximum speed in this motion occurs when the acceleration is zero, as well as when the displacement from equilibrium is the same. (Also applies for the min!) ##V_{max/min}= \pm \omega A## depending on the direction of oscillation ##V_{max}= \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} x## depending on your coordinate system choosen.

Is this the best way to show what you wanted to show? I can't think of another way from the impulse-momentum theorem off the top of my head, but looks good to me.
 
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Yup, this makes sense! Thanks for your help!
 

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