How Can p1 + p2 Exceed p in a Relativistic Elastic Collision?

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The discussion centers on the relativistic elastic collision of protons, specifically addressing the scenario where the sum of the momenta of two outgoing protons (p1 and p2) exceeds the incoming momentum (p). The conservation laws of momentum and energy are applied, leading to the conclusion that due to the vector nature of momentum, it is indeed possible for p1 + p2 to be greater than p. The analysis utilizes MATLAB for calculations, confirming that the minimum occurs at p = 1.2 GeV/c.

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Homework Statement


An relativistic proton collides with a proton at rest (in Lab-frame), the collision is elastic.

let incoming proton have momenta p, and the outgoing momenta = p1, p2.

The following is conserved:

[tex]\vec{p} = \vec{p}_1 + \vec{p}_2[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{m^2+p^2} + m = \sqrt{m^2+p_1^2} + \sqrt{m^2+p_2^2}[/tex]

Gives for the angle between p_1 and p_2 (in lab frame). A minima occurs, which means that [itex]p1 = p2[/itex]. One can show that this minima occurs so that: [itex]p1 + p2 > p[/itex]. Explain why that is possible!


The Attempt at a Solution



MATLAB

m = 0.93828; % proton mass in GeV

p = 2; %GeV incomming proton

p1 = [0.01:0.01:2]; %range of outgoin proton #1s momenta.

p2 = sqrt((sqrt(m^2+p^2)+m-sqrt(m^2+p1.^2)).^2-m^2);

omega = acos((p^2-p1.^2-p2.^2)./(2*p1.*p2));
omega = 180/pi*omega;

plotting gives minima för p = 1.2GeV/c

I am very unsure about this, I think it is possible [itex]p1 + p2 > p[/itex] science momenta is a vector quantity, so the magnitudes can change, but not the total (i.e the total vector after = total vector initial). More suggestions?
 
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malawi_glenn said:
I think it is possible p1+p2>pp1+p2>p p1 + p2 > p science momenta is a vector quantity, so the magnitudes can change, but not the total (i.e the total vector after = total vector initial).
Quite so. Just think of the triangle made by two added vectors and their resultant. Except in the degenerate case, the sum of the lengths of two sides of a triangle exceeds the length of the third.
 

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