How can the Fourier series equation be used to represent the sawtooth function?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Fourier series to represent the sawtooth function. Participants are examining the mathematical formulation and properties of the Fourier series, particularly in relation to the sawtooth waveform.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the relationship between the amplitude and period of the sawtooth function as represented in different equations. There is an exploration of the limits of integration and the definition of the sawtooth function itself. Some are attempting to clarify the role of the factor of 2 in the Fourier series representation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the definitions and calculations involved. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process and the relationship between amplitude and period.

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Homework Statement


Prove:
[tex]f(t)=\sum_{i=1}^\infty (-1)^{n+1} \frac{Sin(n\omega t)}{n}[/tex]
represents the sawtooth function.

Homework Equations



Fourier Series Equations:
[tex]f(t)=\frac{a_0}{2}+\sum_{i=0}^\infty \left(a_n Cos(nt)+b_n Sin(nt) \right)[/tex]
where
[tex]a_n=\frac{2}{T}\int_{t}^{t+T} dt cos(nt) f(t)[/tex]
[tex]b_n=\frac{2}{T}\int_{t}^{t+T} dt sin(nt) f(t)[/tex]
[tex]a_0=\frac{2}{T}\int_{t}^{t+T} dt f(t)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I see from wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_series that they get
[tex]f(t)=2 \sum_{i=1}^\infty (-1)^{n+1} \frac{Sin(n\omega t)}{n}[/tex]
Is this 2 out in front because of their series is twice the period (T) of the one I'm given?

Anyways. The way I go about this is to first take out the [tex]a_n[/tex] since this is an odd function. The part I am stuck on is the limits of integration. The period is the time it takes to travel from the bottom of the sawtooth wave to the top of one right? So should T be (in the case of my given equation) [tex]-\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] to [tex]\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]?
 
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Multiplying by two changes the amplitude of a function, not it's period. What's your definition of the sawtooth exactly?
 
Dick said:
Multiplying by two changes the amplitude of a function, not it's period. What's your definition of the sawtooth exactly?
If you refer to the picture in the link that is saw tooth. My professor gave me a mathematica notebook with that exact picture; plotted with the equation I am suppose to prove. He graphed it with [tex]\omega=2\pi[/tex]. The amplitude appears greater then 1 though.
 
So the amplitude just needs to be divided by 2?
I start off with:

[tex] b_n=\frac{1}{T}\int_{t}^{t+T} dt sin(nt) f(t) [/tex]

?
 
Winzer said:
So the amplitude just needs to be divided by 2?
I start off with:

[tex] b_n=\frac{1}{T}\int_{t}^{t+T} dt sin(nt) f(t) [/tex]

?

No. The original formula you gave is correct, T=2pi. The 2 in the wikipedia comes from doing the integration. I don't think there is anything wrong with the definitions, you just aren't calculating something correctly.
 

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