How can the perpendicular diagonals of a triangle help prove HCD?

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The discussion revolves around the use of perpendicular diagonals in a triangle to prove properties related to isosceles triangles, specifically focusing on triangles DHC and DHF. Participants explore the relationships between similar triangles and the implications for angle congruence and triangle similarity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that triangles BDE and FDC are similar, which leads to further deductions about other triangles.
  • There is a suggestion that triangle DEG is similar to triangles BDE and FDC, which could help establish that triangles DHC and DHF are isosceles.
  • One participant questions whether the similarity of triangle DEG to triangle BDE is justified by the presence of a right angle and shared angles.
  • Another participant confirms that two equal angles are sufficient to establish similarity between triangles.
  • Participants discuss the implications of angle congruence in proving that triangle FDH is isosceles, leading to the conclusion that sides HF and HD must be equal.
  • There is a challenge regarding how to prove that triangle HCD is isosceles, particularly in relation to the right angle at D.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the similarity of certain triangles and the implications for isosceles properties, but there remains uncertainty about the specific steps needed to prove the isosceles nature of triangle HCD. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints and some unresolved questions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the relationships between angles and sides in the triangles, indicating potential gaps in understanding the geometric properties involved. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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I have so far that triangles BDE and FDC are similar, as are DCE and DBF
 
The little triangle $DEG$ is also similar to $BDE$ and $FDC$. Use that to deduce that both of the triangles $DHC$ and $DHF$ are isosceles. The result should then follow quite easily.
 
Opalg said:
The little triangle $DEG$ is also similar to $BDE$ and $FDC$. Use that to deduce that both of the triangles $DHC$ and $DHF$ are isosceles. The result should then follow quite easily.
One quick question, is DEG similar to BDE because we know both have a right angle, and then they share a side and they share an angle? Is that enough?
 
two equal angles are enough to show similarity
 
skeeter said:
two equal angles are enough to show similarity
True, I was thinking congruence. Thanks everyone!
 
Opalg said:
The little triangle $DEG$ is also similar to $BDE$ and $FDC$. Use that to deduce that both of the triangles $DHC$ and $DHF$ are isosceles. The result should then follow quite easily.
Thank you!
 
Opalg said:
The little triangle $DEG$ is also similar to $BDE$ and $FDC$. Use that to deduce that both of the triangles $DHC$ and $DHF$ are isosceles. The result should then follow quite easily.
I'm sorry, I'm definitely missing something similar, but how do I know they are isosceles?
 
slwarrior64 said:
I'm sorry, I'm definitely missing something similar, but how do I know they are isosceles?
The angles $GDE$ and $DFH$ are equal (from the similar triangles $GDE$ and $DFC$).
The angles $GDE$ and $FDH$ are equal (from the intersection of the lines $EF$ and $GH$).
Therefore the angles $DFH$ and $FDH$ are equal and so the triangle $FDH$ is isosceles. So the sides $HF$ and $HD$ must be equal.
Using the fact that the triangle $CDF$ has a right angle at $D$, you can then show that the triangle $HCD$ has equal angles at $C$ and $D$ and is therefore also isosceles.
 
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Opalg said:
The angles $GDE$ and $DFH$ are equal (from the similar triangles $GDE$ and $DFC$).
The angles $GDE$ and $FDH$ are equal (from the intersection of the lines $EF$ and $GH$).
Therefore the angles $DFH$ and $FDH$ are equal and so the triangle $FDH$ is isosceles. So the sides $HF$ and $HD$ must be equal.
Using the fact that the triangle $CDF$ has a right angle at $D$, you can then show that the triangle $HCD$ has equal angles at $C$ and $D$ and is therefore also isosceles.
Thanks, I was able to get triangle FDH, but I was stuck on proving HCD because I didn't know how that line would cut the right angle
 
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slwarrior64 said:
Thanks, I was able to get triangle FDH, but I was stuck on proving HCD because I didn't know how that line would cut the right angle
I got it! Thanks again!
 

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