How can the Riemann tensor help me calculate the bend in space-time?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the bend in space-time caused by mass, specifically how to quantify this bending relative to "unbent" space-time. Participants also explore the acceleration due to gravity at various distances from the Earth's center, touching on both general relativity and Newtonian mechanics.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating the bend in space-time from a mass, expressing uncertainty about the formulation of the question.
  • Another participant suggests using the Schwarzschild metric for spherical masses as a relevant approach.
  • There is a mention of calculating gravity's acceleration at different distances from the Earth's center, with references to both general relativity and Newtonian mechanics.
  • A participant highlights the Riemann tensor as a key concept for understanding spacetime curvature and recommends further research on the topic.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to calculate the bend in space-time or the acceleration due to gravity at various distances. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented without resolution.

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Participants express uncertainty about the appropriate questions and formulations, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the concepts involved.

Kaleetos
Hi. Could anyone here help/teach me how to calculate the resulting bend in space-time from any particular mass? Specifically I'm trying to figure out how much space-time is stretched or bent relative to "unbent" space-time in space. I'm not exactly sure this is the right question to be asking even, but if anyone could point me to the right formulas that would be very helpful. Thanks!
 
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One more question: How do you calculate the acceleration due to gravity from different distances from the center of the earth. I know g is constant for thing close to the surface of the earth-- but how do I find the acceleration due to gravity for things in different layers of the atmosphere?
 
Kaleetos said:
Hi. Could anyone here help/teach me how to calculate the resulting bend in space-time from any particular mass?
For spherical masses you would take the Schwarzshild-Metric
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_metric

Kaleetos said:
One more question: How do you calculate the acceleration due to gravity from different distances from the center of the earth.
You mean in Genetal Relativity? Its Eq. 8 in this paper:
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1975AN...296..109T/0000109.000.html
Or in Newtonian mechanics? :
g = gravitational_constant * mass_of_earth / distance_from_center_of_the_earth^2
 
Kaleetos said:
Hi. Could anyone here help/teach me how to calculate the resulting bend in space-time from any particular mass? Specifically I'm trying to figure out how much space-time is stretched or bent relative to "unbent" space-time in space. I'm not exactly sure this is the right question to be asking even, but if anyone could point me to the right formulas that would be very helpful. Thanks!

The curvature of spacetime is described by the Riemann tensor. I recommend that you do a web search on that term.

Best wishes

Pete
 

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