How Can We Petition for a Sidewalk on a Dangerous Road?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the need for a sidewalk on a dangerous outer road in a city, focusing on safety concerns for pedestrians and cyclists, as well as the process for petitioning local authorities for infrastructure improvements. Participants explore various avenues for advocacy and information gathering related to urban design and safety.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the lack of sidewalks on a busy road where pedestrians have been killed, highlighting the dangers faced by those who must walk or cycle there.
  • There is a suggestion to approach the City Council and Planning Commission to advocate for the sidewalk, with some participants noting the potential for more citizen input at Planning Commission meetings.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of supporting pedestrian and cyclist-friendly urban design, criticizing current car-centric developments.
  • Some participants discuss the legalities of cycling on sidewalks, noting that laws vary by location and may restrict this practice.
  • There is a request for information on how to access public accident records to support safety concerns, with suggestions that this information may not be available online for smaller cities.
  • Another participant raises the issue of property ownership along the road, indicating that sidewalks may be the responsibility of landowners rather than the city, which could complicate the petition process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for improved safety for pedestrians and cyclists, but there are multiple competing views on the best approach to advocate for a sidewalk and the legal implications of cycling on sidewalks. The discussion remains unresolved regarding specific steps to take and the complexities involved in petitioning for infrastructure changes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty about local laws regarding sidewalk usage, the availability of public accident records, and the responsibilities of property owners versus the city for sidewalk maintenance.

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I live in a city where, unfortunately, most of the commerce is along an outer road of the highway - that does not have a sidewalk.

The City itself probably wouldn't mind a sidewalk, but, the transportation department controls the outer road.

People have been killed, repeatedly, going down this road on foot. It is a serious disabled access issue... I am an able-bodied cyclist, and even though the speed limit is only 40 m.p.h. I think cycling along the shoulder is next to insane, and I know some people who can't drive, that have to assume mortal danger every time they want to go to work.

It also degrades quality of life in the city, because it limits transportation options - commuting by car is the only choice that doesn't leave an aftertaste of mortality in your mouth, if traffic is doing anything.

This wouldn't be such an issue, but virtually all of the cities large employers are down this road. To make matters worse, it's a tourist conduit.

So, how does one petition for a sidewalk? I was literally going to start a petition, but I don't even know who to give the signatures to...
 
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k_squared said:
I live in a city where, unfortunately, most of the commerce is along an outer road of the highway - that does not have a sidewalk.

The City itself probably wouldn't mind a sidewalk, but, the transportation department controls the outer road.

People have been killed, repeatedly, going down this road on foot. It is a serious disabled access issue... I am an able-bodied cyclist, and even though the speed limit is only 40 m.p.h. I think cycling along the shoulder is next to insane, and I know some people who can't drive, that have to assume mortal danger every time they want to go to work.

It also degrades quality of life in the city, because it limits transportation options - commuting by car is the only choice that doesn't leave an aftertaste of mortality in your mouth, if traffic is doing anything.

This wouldn't be such an issue, but virtually all of the cities large employers are down this road. To make matters worse, it's a tourist conduit.

So, how does one petition for a sidewalk? I was literally going to start a petition, but I don't even know who to give the signatures to...
First, bicycles aren't always legally allowed on sidewalks, they are illegal where I live.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/08/legal-to-ride-a-bike-on-sidewalk.html

You can approach your city council about sidewalks, but it still may not be legal to ride bikes on those sidewalks.
 
It's really not all about the bike, but I do appreciate the response.

Thank you for this artical - laws do vary wildly.
 
I agree with Evo - your City Council is a good place to check.

Also, see if your city has a Planning Commission. Infrastructure is their thing! And they don't have the political pressures on them that City Councils often do. Go to a few of their meetings and share your concerns, they may be more open to citizen input.

Disclosure: my step father has been active on Planning Commissions all his career - I know he was strongly affected by citizens who would take the time to speak at meetings :smile:.
 
I just wanted to throw in my support for the general principle of more pedestrian and cyclist-friendly urban design. I find in general that the current "box store outlet" malls that are designed around cars are horribly difficult to navigate as either a pedestrian or a cyclist.

Another avenue to pusue (in addition to talking with your elected city council members) is to talk to someone at a local bicycle shop or cycling club. There may already be such initiatives in place that they would be aware of and rather than re-inventing the wheel, you might get more bank for your buck by supporting something that's already happening.
 
Hmm, I would like to search public accident records in order to use that information to cite safety concerns along that road - ie, I am trying to look up the cases where people have been struck and killed along this road.

However, I cannot find a way to search public accidents.

Does anyone know how to do this?
 
k_squared said:
Hmm, I would like to search public accident records in order to use that information to cite safety concerns along that road - ie, I am trying to look up the cases where people have been struck and killed along this road.

However, I cannot find a way to search public accidents.

Does anyone know how to do this?

If it's a small city street, it probably won't be available online. You may have to physically go to your local Transportation Department. I'd start by making some phone calls, if I were you.
 
Have you checked to find out if the property facing the road is owned by the city? Here property facing highways is mostly privately owned, and sidewalks are the responsibility of the landowner. It's why along a major road here the sidewalk starts and stops because some landowners don't want to care for a sidewalk.

For instance http://www.binghamton-ny.gov/departments/public-works/who-responsible-maintenance-sidewalks
 

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